J-River UPnP setup
Posted by: RaceTripper on 06 January 2013
I am evaluating J-River media server for streaming files to my ND5 XS. I have heard there is a Mac version coming this year, so I wanted to compare it to using Asset UPnP.
I play mostly classical music and depend on browsing the file system that has all my audio files. I select and play them that way, rather than using tags, which are mostly a disaster for classical music.
With Asset UPnP I can see my folder structure using the "Folders and Filename Browsing" I was able to configure and publish to the n-Stream app and the ND5 front panel. However, for the life of me I cannot figure out how to do the same with the Media Network service in J-River Media Center. Navigating my library via the default categories/tags/playlist it shows on n-Stream is unusable for me.
How do I add a file system browser for UPnP clients with J-River?
You might want to head over to the Interact forum at JRiver's website. Someone will be along in no time to help you out. It is the best forum I have ever been a part of.
Good luck!
Patrick
You might want to head over to the Interact forum at JRiver's website. Someone will be along in no time to help you out. It is the best forum I have ever been a part of.
Good luck!
Patrick
I am aware of the forum. I did a quick search there and didn't find my answer.
I was hoping someone here might know the answer, since there are JRiver users here. I avoid registering on a product forum for just a setup question on something I am evaluating, and may not end up buying.
Racetripper - I use JRMC and have found it to be absolutely magnificent - like you I have a large classical music collection, (and a large jazz collection).
To modify the tree structure presented to a UPnP control point, proceed as follows:
Tools > Options > Media Network > Add or Configure DLNA servers > Customise Views >
Highlight the 'Audio' root > Add > Library Item from Standard View > Audio/Files .. then enough OKs to get you out.
That adds the "Files" view from the main JRMC view to the views available via DLNA.
I would suggest that, if you get that working, you might reconsider using tags for your browsing. JRMC really lets you make use of them in useful ways. For example, one of my views is Classical Music by Composer; another one gives me Classical Music by Album Artist.
You can pretty much do what you want because of the Custom Browse features. Obviously it depends how well you have tagged your music - but even then JRMC makes setting, adding and modifying tags very easy.
HTH - if you can give me a clue of the kind of browse trees you would like, maybe I can point you in the right direction.
Racetripper - I use JRMC and have found it to be absolutely magnificent - like you I have a large classical music collection, (and a large jazz collection).
To modify the tree structure presented to a UPnP control point, proceed as follows:
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Thanks so much the help. That got me started with what I need.
I will consider using the tagging features. I'll have a lot of work to edit/fix tags for all my jazz and classical, but with a decent editor that should be doable.
I have 30 days to play with this, but am really looking for the Mac version when it comes out.
Thanks so much the help. That got me started with what I need.
I will consider using the tagging features. I'll have a lot of work to edit/fix tags for all my jazz and classical, but with a decent editor that should be doable.
I have 30 days to play with this, but am really looking for the Mac version when it comes out.
Great - glad I could help. JRMC itself is 'a decent editor' (imo). You can edit the tags for a single, or a selection of tracks by opening the 'Action Window' at the bottom left of the main screen and then clicking "Tag". It 'remembers' tags you have used, which makes it easy to ensure you standardise spellings of Composer, Artist etc. I can also recommend the Custom Browse feature. This is a hugely powerful search engine that you can use to Search, and to configure browse trees, and to configure views on the main JRMC screen. In the retagging phase of your endeavours you could use it, say, to select all the tracks you have that are (mis-)tagged as 'Chaikovsky' and retag all of them at once. The "ComposerSort" tag is very useful ime, and there's nothing stopping you defining tags of your own - work, style, sub-genre .. You can see the consequence of your retagging immediately - there's no need to wait for a server to rescan.
Once your tagging is sorted you can use the Custom View and Custom Browse features to get browse trees just like you want them. For example, I have a 'Genres' view which has as it's second level the Composer for Classical, but the AlbumArtist for non-classical.
Anyhow, hope you get it all sorted. You might want to checkout JRemote - an iPad control point - which works well with JRMC.
Thank you. I will spend some time exploring this in the next few weeks.
Instead of browsing by folder/filename, you can also set JRiver to "treat" the folder names as tags so that you can browse your collection within the library view:
right click>library tools>fill properties from filename
and choose or create a folder structure template.
You can then browse by composer, conductor or however you structured your folders...
Instead of browsing by folder/filename, you can also set JRiver to "treat" the folder names as tags so that you can browse your collection within the library view:
right click>library tools>fill properties from filename
and choose or create a folder structure template.
You can then browse by composer, conductor or however you structured your folders...
Thank you. That looks like it will take a bit more work to get right, since it's different for jazz and classical. I think that is something I would look into more when there is a Mac OS X version.
For now, the directory browsing does exactly what I need.
... That looks like it will take a bit more work to get right, since it's different for jazz and classical.
I think you can even choose different directory structures for different folder locations, but I am not sure how to do it...
Yes, let's first see what features will be available in the Mac version.
... That looks like it will take a bit more work to get right, since it's different for jazz and classical.
I think you can even choose different directory structures for different folder locations, but I am not sure how to do it...
Yes, let's first see what features will be available in the Mac version.
If you have different folder structures for jazz and classical, yet want to use the JRMC feature to convert the folder\filename to tags, you could (temporarily) make two JRMC libraries - one for classical, one for jazz. Do the appropriate conversion on each library, then unify them again.
Thanks. These are good tips, but the kind of stuff I will defer for now, until I know that's what I'm going to use. As I mentioned much of this hinges on the Mac version and what features it will have. Right now I am running this on Windows running in a VM on my Mac, but I don't want to do that permanently.
Hey RaceTripper, you may recall our exchange after I sold my ND5xs. Well, after much thought and discussions with various people I've decided to get the U-Serve and at least initially run it into my RegaDac (which I've kept while tying the ND5xs (and yes, the ND5 is better)). See a new review of the Serve on Audiobeat. I agree -- there are much cheaper and quite similar options but in the context of a Naim system the Serve is a winner. Just my $3,xxx,xxx cents.
Hey RaceTripper, you may recall our exchange after I sold my ND5xs. Well, after much thought and discussions with various people I've decided to get the U-Serve and at least initially run it into my RegaDac (which I've kept while tying the ND5xs (and yes, the ND5 is better)). See a new review of the Serve on Audiobeat. I agree -- there are much cheaper and quite similar options but in the context of a Naim system the Serve is a winner. Just my $3,xxx,xxx cents.
Thanks for the advice, but another device for my digital front end is completely out of the question. Besides, digital playback is such a small part of my total listening (< 10%), I would rather take the cost of the U-Serve and use that to buy a better phono cartridge and phono preamp, and some records. That would be a much better use of my money.
But it's all moot. I'm done spending money on the system. I'm not buying more equipment. Not for a very long time. If I can't get things to work with inexpensive software, I'd be more likely to sell the ND5 and use my Squeezebox Touch and Arcam rLink instead, and use what's left over to buy more records.