suggestions for organising music on a hard drive.

Posted by: steve61 on 28 January 2013

Up to now l have listened to  my music on a mac mini organised using iTunes.. but reading comments from other forum members where they listen via an external drive or usb stick plugged into the mac mini. Tried it over the weekend to good effect.

Are their any suggestions as to how to replicate a library system were I could create playlist's etc as i do / did on the mac with iTunes .

As it stands  the music on the drive just displays as file lists....  most uninspiring.

Posted on: 28 January 2013 by pcstockton

Artist Folder > Album Folder > Files

 

works well for me.

 

-Patrick

Posted on: 28 January 2013 by steve61

I was hoping there would be something like iTunes the artist  folder /album folder / files

all seems s bit 'clunky'

 

steve

Posted on: 28 January 2013 by nbpf

I use the following scheme:

audio
--- flac
------ 16bit.44,1kHz
--------- Randi Tytingvaag
------------ Grounding
------------ Red
------------ ...
--------- ...
--------- JohannSebastian Bach
------------ Das Wohltemperierte Klavier BWV 846-893
--------------- Friedrich Gulda; CD1, Teil I, BWV 846-860
--------------- ...
--------------- Svjatoslav Richter; CD1, Teil I, BWV 846-857
------------ ...
--------- ...
------ ...
------ 24bit.192kHz
--- ...
--- mp3

uniformly on all storage devices. Best, nbpf

Posted on: 28 January 2013 by PinkHamster

Steve,

 

what you are doing is playing back music via the direct usb connection. All there is is a folder/file structure.

What you are looking for is the presentation and comfort of a library built up from the tags on your files. In order to achieve this you need to run a server of some kind. For you this used to be iTunes. But it could be any UPnP server from Asset to Twonky running on a PC or NAS.

Posted on: 28 January 2013 by Guido Fawkes
Originally Posted by pcstockton:

Artist Folder > Album Folder > Files

 

works well for me.

 

-Patrick

+1 ... i find that good old iTunes structure perfect, but i don't have any classical music in my digital library so that may be different. Surely, the Tags matter more than the file layout ... Except on a stick.

Posted on: 29 January 2013 by teww

Some Examples.....

 

ARTIST / ALBUM (YEAR) 24-96 highresaudio.com <--- Example Studiomaster Download

ARTIST / ALBUM (YEAR) CD                                   <--- Example CD Rip

 

teww

Posted on: 29 January 2013 by steve61

Seem to have it sorted...the guys at Apple Manchester showed me the way..export the iTunes folder from the mac mini to the external hard drive ...go through one or two iTunes menu options..delete the files from  mac mini iTunes . 

So when i click now on iTunes it plays from the files from the external drive ..so L now have the functionality of iTunes and the musicality of listening 'off piste''.

 

Q. Why is the sound better from an external drive?

 

The future has arrived?

http://m.guardian.co.uk/technology/2...y&type=article

Posted on: 29 January 2013 by pcstockton
Originally Posted by steve61:

More like, the past is coming back to haunt us.

 

This is not new news.  And it is not anything to get excited about.  They will still transcode everything to some proprietary lossy crap and caim it is HiResl.

 

Read more on their attempt to get people to record in this lossy "HiRes". 

 

It is all BS.

 

-Patrick

Posted on: 30 January 2013 by steve61

Read more on their attempt to get people to record in this lossy "HiRes". 

 

where would that be?

Posted on: 30 January 2013 by ianmacd
Originally Posted by steve61:

Read more on their attempt to get people to record in this lossy "HiRes". 

 

where would that be?

Hi

 

Here is a link to the info document:

 

http://images.apple.com/itunes...tered_for_itunes.pdf

 

Regards, Ian

Posted on: 30 January 2013 by steve61

Thanks,

Seems to be directed at studios supplying iTunes.

 

Nobody here seriously thinks aac equals cd..do they?

Although the vast majority of jo public are ok with that resolution and to be honest when supplied to me via Imatch on my portable devices i think it sounds ok.

 

With regard to my 'at home listening" If I am playing from my hard drive then it's aiff files burned from cd's.

 

I do not buy from apple / amazon for obvious reasons .. if I could purchase aiff +  plus music then I guess I would,though the physical object is preferable to me... though not always available.

 

So with regard to the article if it comes to fruition.. whats not to like?

Posted on: 30 January 2013 by pcstockton
Originally Posted by steve61:

Whats not to like?

Master for iTunes Plus:


"When creating a master, mastering engineers take into account the limitations and
characteristics of the medium or destination format, as well as the listening environment
of their audience. For example, a master created for vinyl is unlikely to be listened to in
an airplane or car, and therefore is often mastered for a listening environment where a
listener can hear and appreciate a wider dynamic range. Similarly, a master created for a
club environment might take into account the noisiness of the intended listening
environment.

Because iTunes Plus is a highly portable format, its files have the potential to be listened
to in a wide range of different settings. So while one listener may be using white
earbuds while riding in a loud subway car, another may wind up listening intently to a
Bach cantata on AirPlay-equipped Bowers and Wilkins speakers or on a similarly
equipped Denon receiver in a home media room. Just as likely, a college student may be
deep into Miles Davis' Sketches of Spain while sporting Dre Beats headphones in the
campus library. Keep in mind that Apple has sold more than 250 million iOS devices, and
that many, many people around the world are listening to music on their iPods, iPhones,
or iPads.


You’re being provided with all the tools you’ll need to encode your masters precisely the
same way the iTunes Store does so that you can audition exactly what they’ll sound like
as iTunes Plus AAC files."

 

Yes, they are providing all the tools to make sure the music sounds like shit.  I dont need iTunes assuming the where and how of music replay.

 

-Patrick

Posted on: 31 January 2013 by Aleg

+1

i don't want my music to sound  "as iTunes Plus AAC files.", ever. 

No AAC crap please

Posted on: 31 January 2013 by steve61

With respect guy losings I think you're losing the plot or the point..

 

As I understand it the article seems to be trailing the fact that Apple are making available within iTunes multiple file types aac / 'losses' / aiff / 24-96 to purchase and stream to suit.

 

"Yes, they are providing all the tools to make sure the music sounds like shit.  I dont need iTunes assuming the where and how of music replay."


That was then and this hopefully is now...potty-mouth