Record Store Day April 20 2013
Posted by: Blueknowz on 15 February 2013
Cheers for the heads up, Blue - some really good releases this year: Velvets, Spacemen 3, Durutti Column, etc...
Is that the day all the HMV stores are closing?
Mike, I can only agree.
When it started I think it was done with the best of intentions. However within a year it was a case of people buying the items and ebaying them imediately at multiples of their purchase value. So all those limited editions are simply available to those with vast amounts of money. And even the purchase price leaves me cold. Just how much will those records cost never mind the box sets?
That said there are always a number of interesting releases but.........
like having a funeral while the terminally ill patient is still in Intensive care
You miserable old sod. I for one enjoy it, it's a bit fun. If you don't, then fair enough, don't join in, it's a free country.
You're obviously full of bright ideas and boundless optimism, do continue to share them and it with all of us.
I will add that if you old miseries stay at home muttering to yourselves on RSD, then the queues will be shorter, so please, carry on...
I don't give a shit what the majority, or minority, you or anyone else will be doing on the day. I shall, once the queues subside - I don't like queuing - be popping along to Rough Trade East or Sister Ray or similar to have a browse and treat myself.
Perhaps you'll be there too, with your AK-47, ready to take those bastards with the temerity to do some shopping on RSD down, you big scary keyboard warrior you.
PS - Can we hear some of your own bright ideas on how to save the music industry? Or perhaps you'd you're just happy to go on threatening billy goats from beneath the bridge?
This was an RSD purchase last year, and I think it's a classic. A great gig, plus it's right up there with Reckoning in terms of sound quality.
I spent a hell of a lot of money and traded in half my vinyl collection I wasn't listening to. I tried small shops, some not interested, ended up at Amoeba on Sunset spending too much but enjoying the spree. I have to digest it all, feel like a fat pig gorged on a turkey dinner. Won't be spending more for years.
I really do like putting my hands on items, thumbing thru stacks, seeing the circus at Amoeba or smaller shops, comments back and forth to other buyers. Seems tho I rarely even get my friends to come over for a listen so it becomes a solitary event. I've had a few over in the past and with great sound they start talking about things, not paying attention. One good friend loves my system and sort of folds up, closes his eyes and drifts away. That I like. Told me once he likes to hear people's TV or stereos when they say they have the best and don't. However, says I DO HAVE the BEST he's ever heard. I like that guy
You are 100% correct Mike in your assertion that it is - unless you are a superlative writer - very difficult to convey certain tones (sarcasm, irony, dryness etc) on email, web forums, etc. In most cases it's not worth trying.
Back to RSD - if it keeps a few shops going through the rest of the year, then that's good, surely? If it means that people go into record shops when they don't normally do so, then good. They might come back again at a later date. If it raises the profile of record shops in general, that's great?
Really I can't see what you're getting het up about. It's just a bit of fun, nobody's forcing you to participate, and, to be quite frank, there are more important things that you could be concentrating your ire on. (You don't even possess a record player, if I read your profile right, so I find it even more difficult to understand your attitude, given that most exclusive RSD product is on vinyl).
Also, your conflation of RSD and the dire state of the industry/record company greed is a tad tenuous and, again to be frank, rather poorly argued. The question about why people don't shop in record shops on other days of the year is a fair one, but you know the answer as well as I do - Amazon, decline of physical media, consumers' desire for convenience and speed above all else, etc. But it is not RSD - if anything RSD is an attempt - flawed perhaps, but an attempt - to try to correct this.
Personally I find your attitude as expressed in this thread a bit defeatist and fatalistic, but there you go - it's a free country.
Blimey this discussion has taken an interesting turn since I posted! I think anything that helps save our small independent shops is great and I love the idea that on one saturday they will have live bands and other fun happenings . I still feel that much of the 'product' specially issued for special sale on that day is vastly overpriced and judging by how many suddenly appear on ebay, simply bought by 'dealers'. Which surely doesn't help anyone?
And like book shops that became coffee shops etc, maybe its time, like Rough Trade, for these shops to think a bit bigger to get us in? If HMV can put on gigs then why can't others.....and yes I know some do!
And yes I have bought 'product', it just annoys me that it costs twice as much as it should. If an artist gave special permission for that rare track to be released in aid of a good cause then i will only applaud them.But who is making that extra buck? not sure it is my local independent record shop but maybe someone can let us know?
Very entertaining , sharp witted banter guys. Please continue
Stop using the app then. It makes your posts very difficult (an unkind soul might say "even more difficult to read" but not me) to read.
Do that and I'll "just, like, post without quoting in full every single time". How's that?
Mike, I don't disagree with you that the music biz's business model is based on greed, short-termism and exploiting the gullibility of both public and performers. But I don't see what this has to do with RSD. It has always been the case.
You say that people go around buying up the limited editions and then selling them on eBay. But this trend was not started by RSD. I remember in the late '70s when the (then) Japan-only "Dylan Live at Budokan" album came out. A few ,er, enterprising souls started importing them and selling them at hugely inflated prices via small ads in the back pages of the music papers or in London record shops (£20 was a lot to pay for an LP back in 1978). Limited editions have always been snapped up by greedy speculators. It's the way of the world. Many shops on RSD make an effort to make life a bit more difficult for speculators by restricting purchases to one per person. Sure, it's not going to deter the hardcore, but then again what will?
Also, you say that 70% of last year's RSD participants have since shut. What is your source? THat is a powerful assertion, and I would like to see the evidence for it.
That's because I was in the middle of arguing back.
Mike, in your post above you list a lot of complaints about record shops (bands playing in them, etc). Can I make a suggestion? Don't go in them. Sit at home moaning into your app. Or order online.
Well, on Friday morning I popped into Sounds of the Universe and Sister Ray in "London's trendy Soho" and both looked pretty buzzy to me. Reckless was a bit quieter but still had a dozen punters in there - not bad for a Friday AM.
What about the evidence for your assertion that 70% of the participants in last year's RSD are now shut?