What's The Best Sounding Prog. Album?

Posted by: GraemeH on 01 April 2013

Prog is great for its huge dynamic swings and multiple layers and instrumentation.

 

Possibly the best sounding - on Chrysalis first CD pressing is this:

 

 

What do you think? (Typing as my ears are compressed by the bass pedal on Firth of Fifth)...G

Posted on: 04 April 2013 by Paul Davies
Originally Posted by Tony2011:

ITCOTCK - Has to be first pressing! A2/B2. i Pink  Label. Anything else is just futile!

Even the recent DGM 200g vinyl reissue? Sound quality is stunning (way better than my 1976 Island orange and green label pressing). And the label's a nice imitation of the i pink label Never heard a 1st pressing - hence my question.

Posted on: 05 April 2013 by GraemeH

Been looking to add some ELP for the occasional bit of bombast.  Thought of getting 'Welcome to the show.......' But it seems that it is fairly poor sounding on CD?

 

Think I'll stick to ELP, BSS, Tarkus & Trilogy as a starter......Is this a sensible choice?

 

Thanks

 

G

Posted on: 05 April 2013 by Quad 33

This is a great sounding album.

 

 

G

Posted on: 05 April 2013 by Big Al
Originally Posted by GraemeH:
 
Hi Graeme
 
Yes. You have picked their best 4 albums, although I have never been that keen on BSS compared to the other three. PAAE is a bit of an acquired taste, but has its' moments. In descending order my choice would be Trilogy, Tarkus, ELP, then BSS. They are also produced properly, unlike the cack that is foisted on us today.
 
HTH, Al

Been looking to add some ELP for the occasional bit of bombast.  Thought of getting 'Welcome to the show.......' But it seems that it is fairly poor sounding on CD?

 

Think I'll stick to ELP, BSS, Tarkus & Trilogy as a starter......Is this a sensible choice?

 

Thanks

 

G

 

Posted on: 05 April 2013 by GraemeH

Thanks Al. I'm assuming the 1996 CD's sound best and are not cluttered with so called 'bonus' material?

 

G

Posted on: 05 April 2013 by Big Al
Originally Posted by GraemeH:
 
Ah, you have me there Graeme!
 
I've only got ELP on CD, all the others are on vinyl, although whatever CD I have got* sounds a hell of a lot better than my reissue copy LP which suffers from excessive sibilance.
 
*Just checked for you: I have the 1996 Castle Communications re-release.
 
You may want to consider the "From the Beginning"box set which is still available (albeit without the DVD which accompanied the original release) from a well-known internet vendor seemingly intent on global domination....
 
I am pretty sure that this has avoided the "remastered plague" that afflicts many artists, although in fairness, listening to the Doors' remasters via Spotify Premium is interesting, albeit not particularly germane to ELP.
 
Al

Thanks Al. I'm assuming the 1996 CD's sound best and are not cluttered with so called 'bonus' material?

 

G

 

Posted on: 05 April 2013 by Steve2701

Prog is still progressing -

 

 

 

 

Big Big Train prove that prog can still be written and recorded very well. Will not be to everyones taste - but it is certainly good.

Posted on: 05 April 2013 by MDS

Graeme

I've got ELP and Trilogy on CD. Both are on the Castle label from 1996 (ESM CD 340 and ESM CD 343 respectively) and are very good quality remasters.  Neither have any bonus tracks.

MDS 

Posted on: 05 April 2013 by GraemeH

Thanks gentlemen. G

Posted on: 08 April 2013 by Richard Dane

This one sounds great whether on CD or double vinyl.  You can just about detect a bit of dynamic compression here and there (no more than on The Raven That Refused to Sing) but it's worth it even if it only had one track on it - the epic 16min long Again. 

 

Posted on: 08 April 2013 by J.N.

 

On vinyl or original 'Blue Face' Virgin/Chrysalis CD Cat No 4001. Transparent, lucid, spacious and detailed with dynamic swing aplenty.

 

Am I alone in thinking that 'The Raven Who Refused to Sing' is NOT a good recording? It probably was, until it got screwed up at the mastering stage. For me, when it gets busy, it gets congested and nasty. The Hi Def download sounds no better.

 

Alan Parsons was engineering better sounding results forty years ago.

 

John.

Posted on: 08 April 2013 by tonym
Originally Posted by J.N.:

Am I alone in thinking that 'The Raven Who Refused to Sing' is NOT a good recording? It probably was, until it got screwed up at the mastering stage. For me, when it gets busy, it gets congested and nasty. The Hi Def download sounds no better.

 

Alan Parsons was engineering better sounding results forty years ago.

 

John.

I'm with you on that John. When you consider the spiffing job Mr Wilson's done with his remastering of other people's music it's a real disappointment that he's presumably allowed this album to come out with such a relatively poor sound. 

Posted on: 08 April 2013 by GraemeH

"On vinyl or original 'Blue Face' Virgin/Chrysalis CD Cat No 4001. Transparent, lucid, spacious and detailed with dynamic swing aplenty."


Have the Chrysalis CD and it is a corker. G

Posted on: 08 April 2013 by Richard Dane

Raven's fine.  It's not a bad job, as John says it's just rather compressed when things get busy.  Main frustration is that it could have been better;  Witness "Buying New Soul" from the PT album Recordings.

 

As for Trick of The Tail, this was the first MFSL LP I bought while at school along with Dark SIde of The Moon.  Back then I thought it was great but, like so many MoFi releases, as my system has improved so the drawbacks with the MFSLs have been exposed.  I now much prefer the original release, albeit it's not an album I play that much any more.  Wind & Wuthering gets a lot more play...

Posted on: 10 April 2013 by GraemeH
Originally Posted by Tony2011:

ITCOTCK - Has to be first pressing! A2/B2. i Pink  Label. Anything else is just futile!

Just acquired an 'E'G' CD pressing of this to supplement the collection.....possibly futile, but what I've read from the SH forum seems to suggest it's a good master. We shall see. G

Posted on: 10 April 2013 by Tony2011
Originally Posted by GraemeH:
Originally Posted by Tony2011:

ITCOTCK - Has to be first pressing! A2/B2. i Pink  Label. Anything else is just futile!

Just acquired an 'E'G' CD pressing of this to supplement the collection.....possibly futile, but what I've read from the SH forum seems to suggest it's a good master. We shall see. G


Graham,

There's  nothing "wrong" with the CD pressing of ITCOTCK apart from the digital remastering. I own copies in most format, including a R2R and tape. I also have a 200g copy which is pretty good considereing it is "digitally contaminated". Of all the formats, LP is still my favourite due to its mellowness and "coloufulness". It's really hard to explain. Please, forgive if I cannot be any more succint. Do try to listen to an original, unperturbed copy if you can.

KR

Tony

Posted on: 12 April 2013 by plexxx

I enjoy Camel's albums on CD, all seem to be the same level of excellent sound quality.  

Posted on: 15 April 2013 by Harry

I got stuck on Moonmadness and never expanded my collection. I always through it a well produced album going back to Vinyl. Perhaps tending to smooth and a little bit sat on, but enjoyable and still played regularly. It took an NDS to really make it come out of itself. I didn't know there was so much information in it.

Posted on: 15 April 2013 by yeti42

 

This has long been a favourite, bought it in a secondhand record shop in Chertsey by the name of Mr Waxy around 1980. Has to be the Passport pressing though the later Whindham Hill one loses the edge.