Car vandalism

Posted by: Dungassin on 02 May 2013

Well, some evil little moron decided to 'key' my new car while it was parked outside my daughter's house this afternoon.  Can't imagine why (jealousy?), but I'd love to know who it was so that I could inflict some damage to something he/she values.

Posted on: 03 May 2013 by mista h

D  How many panels did they do? and are you picking up the tab or is this down to insurance. I dont see how taking your car to a local bodyshop can invalidate your warranty.

I once had a white BM and a few weeks before i was due to trade it in i got  hit by a D/D.

When i told the Manager at Bromley BMW he was quite happy for me to get it fixed at a local bodyshop so long as the repairs were done properly.

Mista h

Posted on: 03 May 2013 by Onthlam
Originally Posted by Agricola:

       

Forgive and forget.

 

A motor car is just a means of transport and the rougher it looks the better.

 

Farmer


       


George...
Come on....
If I put a foot through your 57s are they only speakers?
Regards
Marc
Posted on: 03 May 2013 by Harry

The last keying on Helen's car looked awful but I was able to polish it out with an orbital polisher and mild abrasive. Sounds as if your damage has gone deeper. Sickening and expensive. But fixable.

 

We also use double sided 3M tape for number plates. You can get the occasional droop but they generally tend to stick very firmly. 

Posted on: 03 May 2013 by Onthlam
Originally Posted by Bruce Woodhouse:

       

Vandalism by definition is simple a destructive act. I find such acts, whether against a vehicle, a building, a garden or a work of art extremely unpleasant. It is about selfishly denying somebody else the pleasure of that object-and not just the owner.

 

I'd probably be less annoyed if it was stolen rather than vandalised.

 

 

Bruce


       


Similar to what Bruce has said.....
Whoever did this act broke the law...caused hundreds if not thousands of repair costs to personal property. There are consequences .
The bottom line is, this person would be held accountable ....
Hate cars, hate whatever. Its still unlawful property damage and I will need to call the insurance company and the police.
What does all that cost?
Regards
Marc
Posted on: 03 May 2013 by winkyincanada

In an unrelated anecdote (except that it involves nice cars left in public spaces); there is a house on my ride to work where they have a succession of nice cars parked either on the street, or in a small parking space just off the street, but not near the house (driveway is steep so the sports cars presumably can't get to the garage). They;re pretty much accessible to anyone wolking by. It seems that they don't have much of an issue with vandalism.

 

This year they had 2 different Ferrari Californias,  a Ferrari FF (much, much nicer "in the flesh" than you'd think from photos), a Mercedes SLS, ML63 AMG Mercedes and currently sitting there is a Audi R8 GT and a Lamborghini Aventador.

Posted on: 03 May 2013 by Derek Wright

There is probably  a warranty clause that says that if the body rusts then the manufacturer will repair the body - but any body damage done must have repaired by approved body shops.

Posted on: 03 May 2013 by Harry
Originally Posted by Onthlam:
If I put a foot through your 57s are they only speakers?

This is where the logic falls down. It's only a car. It's only a pair of speakers. It's only a sofa. It's only something you might cherish and have worked and sacrificed for but I haven't so I don't care.

 

Lovely. Thanks a lot.

Posted on: 03 May 2013 by Tony2011
Originally Posted by Onthlam:
Originally Posted by Agricola:

       

Forgive and forget.

 

A motor car is just a means of transport and the rougher it looks the better.

 

Farmer


       


George...
Come on....
If I put a foot through your 57s are they only speakers?
Regards
Marc


I wonder if George would feel the same if one his his Carltons had been "raughed up" by some mindless idiot  in the streets?

 

KR

Tony

Posted on: 03 May 2013 by Onthlam
Originally Posted by Harry:

       
Originally Posted by Onthlam:
If I put a foot through your 57s are they only speakers?

This is where the logic falls down. It's only a car. It's only a pair of speakers. It's only a sofa. It's only something you might cherish and have worked and sacrificed for but I haven't so I don't care.

 

Lovely. Thanks a lot.


       


Harry
I'm not sure I follow? I think we are actually in agreement? My point is all things are valuable to someone...that if some person decides to disregard your personal property by damaging it, it is unreasonable ...
Regards
Marc
Posted on: 03 May 2013 by Tony Lockhart
Originally Posted by Derek Wright:

There is probably  a warranty clause that says that if the body rusts then the manufacturer will repair the body - but any body damage done must have repaired by approved body shops.

The clause usually stipulates that corrosion must not be on the surface of the metal. In practice, this means that the paint must bubble, and there should be no evidence of bodywork repairs.

 

Tony

Posted on: 03 May 2013 by Onthlam
Originally Posted by Tony Lockhart:

       
Originally Posted by Derek Wright:

There is probably  a warranty clause that says that if the body rusts then the manufacturer will repair the body - but any body damage done must have repaired by approved body shops.

The clause usually stipulates that corrosion must not be on the surface of the metal. In practice, this means that the paint must bubble, and there should be no evidence of bodywork repairs.

 

Tony


       


Maybe I'm thick but,
There is not a single warranty that will warranty a scratch. That's why we have insurance..
The op situation was very unfortunate.
Where I find  just blatant indifference to a persons personal property/car is in a parking lot.
I try to park well away from the mass.
Regards
Marc
Posted on: 03 May 2013 by Tony Lockhart
I avoid the throngs too. Or take the older car!
Posted on: 03 May 2013 by Dungassin

Just got the quote for the repair.  £608.  Must check my (comprehensive)car policy to see if it's covered. I have NCD protection included, bu an excess of £150 IIRC.

Posted on: 03 May 2013 by Onthlam
Originally Posted by Dungassin:

       

Just got the quote for the repair.  £608.  Must check my (comprehensive)car policy to see if it's covered. I have NCD protection included, bu an excess of £150 IIRC.


       


Ouch!!
People suck.....
Marc
Posted on: 03 May 2013 by RaceTripper
Originally Posted by Dungassin:

Just got the quote for the repair.  £608.  Must check my (comprehensive)car policy to see if it's covered. I have NCD protection included, bu an excess of £150 IIRC.

Yeah, that sounds about right. They probably have to respray the whole panel. I hope you get a good match. 

Posted on: 03 May 2013 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by Agricola:
 

If a person has a smart car, then it is only sensible to take great care where it is left.

 

 

Cars are pretty much the only things we have, that we are allowed to leave scattered over public property without fear of repercussions or paying for the privilege (parking meters notwithstanding). If I bought a shipping container for my stuff, and left it occupying the kerbside outside my house, I would be called to account. OK, I should pay for the privilege (like we do with car registration?) but there is no mechanism for me to lease the space. But I can leave a car there as long as I like.

Posted on: 03 May 2013 by AntonD
Originally Posted by Dungassin:

SWMBO had a go at fixing the scratch with a BMW touch up paint.  Lo and behold, the colour of the touch up is several shades darker than the paintwork of the car (although it is the 'correct colour'), and made the scratch much more visible than the white basecoat previously visible in the scratch mark, so I'm in the process of booking in the car to the BMW body shop to have it fixed properly.

 

As an addendum, the front number plate had fallen off this morning, and when I checked, it and the rear plate had only been affixed with those double-sided sticky things!  Needless to say I have been to the dealers and had harsh words with them about this.  They apologised profusely and said it was an error on their part.  (now properly screwed on).   Alas, they (BMW Derby) don't have a body-shop, so to comply with the warranty terms, I have to deal with BMW Chesterfield.  

Dungassin, their body shop has won BMW awards for years. They are one of the best. Russell is the body shop manager and a top fella!

ive been with them for probably 12 years now. Your repair will be fully warranted and if any issues  occur in the future they will repair it again. Just moved to new fancy building, it's impressive. Hope all is well, don't worry they will sort it but I totally agree its very distressing.

Seems to be a very jealous culture here???

when I see something really nice, I think we'll done and appreciate it and hopefully aspire to it one day if I can. If not, then no matter.

if chesterfield don't do a good job, let me know. Only joking, they will!

ATB, Anton

Posted on: 03 May 2013 by Harry
Originally Posted by Onthlam:
Originally Posted by Harry:

       
Originally Posted by Onthlam:
If I put a foot through your 57s are they only speakers?

This is where the logic falls down. It's only a car. It's only a pair of speakers. It's only a sofa. It's only something you might cherish and have worked and sacrificed for but I haven't so I don't care.

 

Lovely. Thanks a lot.


       


Harry
I'm not sure I follow? I think we are actually in agreement? My point is all things are valuable to someone...that if some person decides to disregard your personal property by damaging it, it is unreasonable ...
Regards
Marc

Yes we are in agreement. Sorry. When I re read my reply just now I saw how it might look ti you. Apologies for my clumsy support!

 

Posted on: 03 May 2013 by Harry

£600 does sound about on the money for a proper BMW body shop job. Used to have a good one here but they upped sticks which was a great shame.

Posted on: 03 May 2013 by Dungassin

Insurance company tells me it's £200 excess for malicious damage, and that I will probably have to wait 5 days for approval (sigh).

 

I also had to report the damage to Cambridge Police, which I forgotten to do, as I couldn't see how they could possibly catch the miscreant.  The Police carefully explained to me that they need the reports to see if there is an on-going problem in any particular area.  Fair enough ...

Posted on: 03 May 2013 by mista h

Had another window done on my car a few years back on the front drive Yes i aint very lucky with cars

They sent round this Pc who looked about 16,must have been in the job a week or so. He wrote a few details down on the back of a fag packet and off he went. Most likely binned before he got back to the nick. They were a total waste of time.

 

Mista h

Posted on: 03 May 2013 by Don Atkinson
Originally Posted by winkyincanada:

I'm with Agricola here. Probably more extreme. My hatred of cars knows no bounds.


We know.

 

And George is simply wrong about it too.

 

The little sods who do this sort of damage should be made to pay.

 

Cheers

 

Don

Posted on: 03 May 2013 by BigH47

See Frank Sinatra is back!

Posted on: 03 May 2013 by Don Atkinson
Originally Posted by winkyincanada:
 

 

Cars are pretty much the only things we have, that we are allowed to leave scattered over public property without fear of repercussions or paying for the privilege

Over here its called Road Fund Licence, or something similar. (but you knew that really)

 

Not sure how you go about organising that for your container.

 

Cheers

 

Don

Posted on: 03 May 2013 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by Don Atkinson:
Originally Posted by winkyincanada:
I'm with Agricola here. Probably more extreme. My hatred of cars knows no bounds.

We know.

And George is simply wrong about it too.

The little sods who do this sort of damage should be made to pay.

Cheers

Don

Actually, I agree with you of course. Damage to anything is a net loss. No upside.

 

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