Why the 9/11 Controlled Demolition Conspiracy Theory is just rubbish.
Posted by: Tarquin Maynard - Portly on 13 May 2013
Various claims have been made, probably while drunk and for a laugh, but some people honestly seem to believe that the WTC wasn't brought down by fires caused by aircraft impact, but by pre-planted explosives.
Now, there are various minor impediments to this lunatic theory - the absence of any audible explosions; the fact that these explosives would have had to have been smuggled past very tight security at the WTC; that everyone concerned in the plot has remained totally silent; that the buildings collapsed from the top...
But anyway. Despite some long film being made about it, here are comprehensive rebuttals to the nutjobs.
You did have me going for a while - i was genuinely astonished that anyone with an intelligence level beyond plankton could fall for all the guff.
I think I have proved beyond any debate that generals, colonels, professors, Ph.Ds, scientists, engineers, architects and medical doctors together with witnesses who were actually there are neither nuts nor stupid and it is crass in the extreme to suggest they are.
Your attempts to ridicule these people many of which consider themselves to be patriots, many of which have flown combat missions and commercial planes, many of which have led professional troops into battle and risked their lives, many of which have been in positions of trust that few could aspire to and many of which who have reached the highest levels of rank, responsibility, respect and authority, by relating them to nutjobs and fruitcakes who believe in faked moon landings and that Elvis Lives in the attempt to show how intelligent and erudite you are has spectacularly backfired. Whatever else these people are (and they are numbered in their thousands) they are demonstrably neither mad nor stupid. Moreover, they are demonstrably more educated, more intelligent and more experienced than you. And whereas according to some of these people who are highly qualified and prize winning health care professionals such as medical doctors, psychologist and psychiatrists people like you are deluded and in denial. So who is the nutjob and who is the fruitcake here?
Case proven.
Very well put sniper, but hollow words based on your previous posts denigrating other well respected scientists from various fields. This only proves that you are happy to subscribe to those views that fit your own world view and show respect to those persons accordingly...and it seems you pursue this enlightened 'yoda' path to fellow forum members.
Nothing proven here sniper...just a dose of hypocrisy.
Jason.
Oh dear here we go again. Show me where I have denigrated any other scientists. I am happy to subscribe to any view supported by a preponderance of evidence. There is no hypocrisy at all. I simply I said I was not going to look at the rebuttal evidence to show TMP how silly such an attitude is. I am happy to look at rebuttals (when I get the time) because I have taken the time to look at the evidence for an 'inside job' whereas TMP has not, therefore he can not be sure that what is alleged to be rebuttal is accurate. For example, someone might say 'architects & engineers say x,y and z and this can't be right because physics tells us that blah blah blah' but did the architects say what they are alleged to have said? I would know but TMP would not. I have said I will look at the material and I will. As for my world view it was pretty similar to TMP's and Don's before a friend nagged me to watch the film. I found the film quite compelling and started to dig deeper and thus changed my mind. I am not emotionally attached to my view at all (unlike some who have lied about me emailing them) and I am happy, more than happy to find out that I am wrong - the world would seem like a safer place then.
I'm sorry to break it to you Onthlam but their is no way he could have survived the impact.....or could he?...You do realise what you are saying here....Elvis might infact be alive?. G
Maybe He jumped out singing 'we can't go one together with suspicious minds..' wearing his er...jump suit. But he must be knocking on a bit by now.
I found Elvis!!
I'm sorry to break it to you Onthlam but their is no way he could have survived the impact.....or could he?...You do realise what you are saying here....Elvis might infact be alive?. G
Are you sure? I really can't tell right now.There's a whole lot a shaking going on.
Marc
I'm very much a skeptic, but I can't believe the twin towers where brought down by explosives. Some of the examples of experts suggesting it was, are clearly not true.
But, what I do find hard to believe is somebody could fly a plane through the front door of the pentagon.
I'm very much a skeptic, but I can't believe the twin towers where brought down by explosives. Some of the examples of experts suggesting it was, are clearly not true.
But, what I do find hard to believe is somebody could fly a plane through the front door of the pentagon.
Marc, the link doesn't seem to work.
Cheers
Don
Marc, the link doesn't seem to work.
Cheers
Don
Don
I just tried it and it worked...Not sure what's going on. You're not missing much.: )
Regards
Marc
Case proven.
The person who
- has speshul secret knowledge of a plot to blow up the WTC with speshul secret explosives that can evade the tight security at the WTC
- that forgets for some reason forgets that two aircraft flew into the towers;
- the person who forgets that the aircraft didn't cause the buildings to collapse - fire did;
- the person whose scant "sources" have been comprehensively rebutted;
- the person who continues to post misquotes and simple lies as "fact";
- the person who refuses to consider an extensive article with 91 footnotes and appendices until somebody watches a video ( with an offer to "buy the full version here"... Hmmm)
- insults our intelligence by expecting us to believe this rubbish.
As you say, case proven.
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and goes "quack", its a duck.
Sorry, I missed that little bit - you very clearly state that they are "demonstrably more etc etc"
Please demonstrate.
TMP (aka Mike lacey)
You keep on repeating the same crap and I keep on repeating the same answers which you stubbornly refuse to understand. My sources are the links I have provided. It really is that simple. If you were not so emotionally attached to your view you would not have resorted to the ad hominum attacks yourself - I merely played your own game to show you the absurdity of your views - you kicked it all off with your ridiculous labeling of people you thought were easy targets and you have resorted to lies and misrepresentation and you have been challenged and found wanting.
As for various generals and professors being more intelligent than you are can you explain why you are/were an NCO in the Territorial Army instead of (say) being a er...General or even a Colonel and why you were/are a financial consultant (not that there is anything wrong with that) and not (say) a professor of physics, chemical engineering, structural engineering or an award winning medical doctor with a bunch of letters after your name? If you are as bright as you would have me believe you are then you seem to be under-achieving. Nothing wrong with that either but you may have robbed humanity of one of its finest minds by aiming so low. You could have cured cancer. You could have been a contender.
Now, insofar as we both seem to be repeating ourselves and insofar that one definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over again expecting different results (attributed to Einstein I believe, if not, Adam will put me right) I suggest we stop this. I hope you have learnt that not everyone who believes in a 9/11 inside job is a total fruitcase and that you have learnt there is more to this than you previously thought.
I won't promise not to reply to you again (I think I almost like you) but I shall only do so when you come up with something intelligent.
Until then, Celer et Audax
I think I agree with sniper.
Oh, and the moon landings were hoax too. 
@TMP: Don't waste your time.
If the 9-11 attacks really are the result of an "inside job" then one must consider that the Government of the USA is not as it appears. It would have to be a rotten and criminal organisation that pays lip service to democracy, where the elected representatives and President are nothing more than puppets in a system designed and controlled from behind the scenes.
I prefer the cock-up notion of a failed effort by the Intelligence Services, to the conspiracy theory myself, if mainly so that I can continue to believe that the USA is basically a benign ally and one run on democratic lines, even if the results of US elections often produce results that would be different from those we might produce were the electorate in the UK!
With democracy it is expected that any population will vote in its own way and differently from the electorate in another country.
Farmer
TMP (aka Mike lacey)
Thank you, Sniper, aka Erik Scothron.
I'm off for some fitness and then out for dinner but all I'll say is that I'm not sure how your view of rank equates to intelligence...
You're in no position to comment on any military matter, given what I understand is the manner of your departure from the British Army - I think the polite term is, "asked to resign your Commission."
I may be wrong but thats what somebody who knew you in ? Queens told me. Interestingly enough he was a Major, and is now a financial adviser.
Its your views that are under examination here - they are patently bonkers, even if honestly held.
Nothing wrong with honestly holding bonkers views, but please stop getting so precious when they are robustly challenged.
PS, Erik
Three quick points -
Einstein was a patents clerk, which didn't seem to indicate his intelligence.
If I chose to use a nom de plume, you really shouldn't take it upon ourself to publish a real name ( obviously you're happy for me to do so, as you have done)
If I was a member of the Armed Forces, it really isn't The Done Thing to say that I am, without my permission.
Further to my previous post, I think this thread has reached its conclusion (a few pages ago).