Your personal "jazz super group"

Posted by: Bert Schurink on 16 July 2013

Sometimes it's interesting to be able to play as if you're god. So let's assume you would be able to how would your supper group look like. The one for me would be:

 

Keith Jarrett on piano

Larry Grenadier on double bass

Pat Metheny on guitar

Christian Scott on trumpet

Joshua Redman on saxaphone

Han Bennink on drums

Posted on: 16 July 2013 by dave4jazz
Originally Posted by Bert Schurink:

Sometimes it's interesting to be able to play as if you're god. So let's assume you would be able to how would your supper group look like. The one for me would be:

 

Keith Jarrett on piano

Larry Grenadier on double bass

Pat Metheny on guitar

Christian Scott on trumpet

Joshua Redman on saxaphone

Han Bennink on drums

Keith Jarrett hasn't played with anyone else but Gary Peacock and Jack DeJonnette for decades so I don't think he'd take part.

How about:

Gary Burton - vibes

Chick Corea - piano

Dave Holland - bass

Roy Haynes - drums

Pat Metheny - guitar

(Listen to "Like Minds" on Concord Records)

Posted on: 16 July 2013 by BigH47

I saw Pat M, Chick C and a third who I can't remember at RFH, talk about battle of the egos, complete nonsense. Major problem for any "super" group I guess.

Posted on: 16 July 2013 by DrMark

Almost any iteration of Art Blakey & the Jazz Messengers.

Posted on: 16 July 2013 by GregU
Originally Posted by DrMark:

Almost any iteration of Art Blakey & the Jazz Messengers.

Didn't JM put out an LP without Art?  I heard it wasn't good, which kind of takes away from the supergroup concept

Posted on: 16 July 2013 by kuma

My favourite jazz musicians are all dead. :/

Posted on: 16 July 2013 by mutterback
Originally Posted by kuma:

My favourite jazz musicians are all dead. :/

I kind of agree with your point.  I play Miles Davis, Coltrane & co about 10 times as often than newer jazz.  Jason Moran is great, and Pat Methany keeps on getting better.  

 

Interesting that I constantly buy (and hear) new performances of classical music, while "classical" jazz is so tied up with canonical recordings.  Its hard to keep trying to play bebop - you end up with Wynton Marsalis. Who wouldn't rather listen to a recording of Louis Armstrong or Miles Davis?

 

Probably around 1993, I heard Paul Motion, Steve Swallow and Joshua Redmond play together - which came as close as I could imagine to a living super group at the time. I've also heard Steve Swallow and Carla Bley together more than once. fantastic. Jazz? Not sure.

 

Which leads me to comment that, imho, the most interesting improvisational music these days is more in a classical vein - by groups like Tin Hat Trio, Brooklyn Rider, eight blackbird. I think there's more energy and talent going into these kinds of groups than into jazz right now.  

 

Posted on: 17 July 2013 by GraemeH

"Money Jungle" was an album ensemble of the best that worked surprisingly well. G

Posted on: 17 July 2013 by Naveed123

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Posted on: 17 July 2013 by Bert Schurink
Originally Posted by mutterback:
Originally Posted by kuma:

My favourite jazz musicians are all dead. :/

I kind of agree with your point.  I play Miles Davis, Coltrane & co about 10 times as often than newer jazz.  Jason Moran is great, and Pat Methany keeps on getting better.  

 

Interesting that I constantly buy (and hear) new performances of classical music, while "classical" jazz is so tied up with canonical recordings.  Its hard to keep trying to play bebop - you end up with Wynton Marsalis. Who wouldn't rather listen to a recording of Louis Armstrong or Miles Davis?

 

Probably around 1993, I heard Paul Motion, Steve Swallow and Joshua Redmond play together - which came as close as I could imagine to a living super group at the time. I've also heard Steve Swallow and Carla Bley together more than once. fantastic. Jazz? Not sure.

 

Which leads me to comment that, imho, the most interesting improvisational music these days is more in a classical vein - by groups like Tin Hat Trio, Brooklyn Rider, eight blackbird. I think there's more energy and talent going into these kinds of groups than into jazz right now.  

 

Hi Mutterback,

 

I guess I have a different opinion. Yes of course the guys which all have died already made great jazz music. However I am also very fond of the new guys. And perhaps a lot of guys would argue that's not jazz, but then we get into a long discussion on what jazz is. For example great modern jazz music:

 

Christian Scott

E.S.T. (yes I know a smart person will say one of them has also died - true)

Tingvall Trio

Neil Cowley Trio

.....

 

So a lot of new stuff to like.