DVD Ripping

Posted by: Mr Underhill on 22 January 2011

Has anyone looked into this?

Is anyone streaming their DVDs?

Experiences? Pro and con?

From a personal POV, I have a very large collection of DVDs. Having them as discs takes up a fair amount of cupboard space, this as AFTER transferring them from their boxes into folders.

Having bought a BluRay player for my 2nd system that acts as a DLNA client I have experimented with ripping and streaming DVDs.

I have also experimented with attaching a PC to a TV via HDMI and using that to upscale to 1080.

My current thinking is, CON:

1. Need a large amount of space to rip at HIGHEST quality, and see no point in ripping to anything else, wouldn't want to do this twice;
2. Need to train the other house occupants in how to access media;
3. Time to rip and catalogue;
4. With that amount of storage backup would be fun - DLT at home! I know the discs are the ultimate backup - but who wants to rip more than once!


PRO:

1. Media made easily available all round the house, on multiple platforms;
2. Technology easily available for upscaling on multiple platforms;
3. Geekish fun!
4. No DVDs to leave hanging around picking up dust and scratches.

On the whole I'm thinking of just sticking with the 'old fashioned' pick a disc approach, but ......

M
Posted on: 22 January 2011 by 2roomsor1
I too looked into this, and still am.

i found that ava media did such a product that was easy to use rip etc, and the guy over there are willing to demo over in manchester.

http://www.ava-media.com/p/902...---black-1x-2tb.html

there was a bluray unit as well, but i can not seem to justify the price, even though i own a hdx, the cash seems too much for my dvd collection, guess that i do not watch a given dvds/blu ray title more than one ore twice a year, some of my music tracks i listen to evert week.
Posted on: 22 January 2011 by Richard Dane
I've done this.  You don't need to spend a fortune either.  I use a WD TV box, which gives you 1080P HDMI and S/pdif output.  The main issue is the time it takes to rip, so I'm nowhere near finished.  Figure on around 150 DVDs per TB, which means you'll need a lot of storage.  Only one drawback; if you rip to ISO then you lose disc navigation (menu, chapter selection etc..), although this may be fixed with a firmware update.

The GUI is nice and simple, you are presented with thumbnails of each DVD (you'll need to download the art), performance is excellent considering how little it costs.  Actually, performance is excellent regardless of cost.

My 10 year old daughter loves it and learned how to use it in a matter of moments.  I like it because it means I can store the DVDs away and they don't take up so much space.

If you're even just thinking about going down this road then you should buy one, they're so inexpensive for what they do.
Posted on: 22 January 2011 by GreenAlex
CONs imho:



- takes up lots of disc space (100 DVD = 800GB)



- needs a server which adds cost and increases energy consumption unnecessarily (more an environmental factor to me...and adds cost)



- takes ages to rip







I have played around with streaming media to my client and it does work well even for 1080.



But just like with my CD collection it takes ages to rip them all.







I set up a 4 drive rip-station with 3 external usb drives using dbPoweramo (for my CDs) but still couldn't get myself to finish the deed as it is tidious and takes too long.







It's a nice little project if you have the time. But ripping a DVD will take even longer.







If you have your DVDs in a folder rather than their cases they can't take up that much space, or can they?



More than a server would? Or is there a server running anyway?







I like the idea of 24/7 access from anywhere within the house. But then you need clients everywhere.



edit:

Why do I get lots of new-lines? when I click "edit" I see lots of



Is the new forum software not compatible with Opera?
Posted on: 23 January 2011 by Mr Underhill
Well, in my case I guesstimate I would need 12TB of storage to hold the rips, plus whatever I felt I needed for resilience.

I am running a server to stream my media, and would be happy to upgrade it to allow for transcoding.

Clients everywhere: Three laptops and a PC. I have a LAN round the house with network ports in every room, bar the kitchen and bathrooms.

I found ripping all my CDs/DVD-As tedious. Rip all my DVDs, urghhhh.

I have ripped ONE DVD. It is a Region 1 copy of a BBC adaption of Pride & Prejudice from the early 80s. Took me ages to track down, so want to make sure I don't lose it.

I can see myself buying a 'Spotify for DVDs', that is a monthly fee for access to an online library, if quality is sufficiently good; rather that set up a large personal library, with the associated cost and time implications.

M
Posted on: 23 January 2011 by GreenAlex
If I were to pay, honestly, it would have to be 1080p and not 576p as with DVDs.

I definitely would not pay for online content that was not HD.



@Mr Underhill:

Why LAN, why not WLAN?
Posted on: 23 January 2011 by winkyincanada
I only rip DVDs for use on portable devices when travelling. It takes far too long to consider doing the whole library. Much easier to just play the discs.
Posted on: 23 January 2011 by Dungassin
Quote : I only rip DVDs for use on portable devices when travelling. It takes far too long to consider doing the whole library. Much easier to just play the discs.

Whatever happened to the simple quote function.  This new website is NOT friendly, IMO.

Anyway - I'm the same. 
Posted on: 20 February 2011 by peterharris
I currently have 60Tb of storage and over 3500 movies across 5 RAID arrays (Netgear ReadyNAS 1100) and have never had a problem. Access is via a PC in every room using a free player (XBMC) with an SQL database as a backend for the catalogue. XBMC supports upscaling to 1080p. DVDs take around 10min. to copy to the hard drive and I would never go back.



Pete
Posted on: 20 February 2011 by 2roomsor1
What do you use to rip, is it XMBC?
Posted on: 20 February 2011 by peterharris
I use a combination of AnyDVD to remove the encryption on the DVD and DVDShrink to remove the bloat from the Disk leaving just the main movie and a single audio track. DVDShrink is free but you need to pay for AnyDVD...both are PC applications. I store the ripped files as .iso files which are DVD image files so that the audio and video is contained in a single file...it makes it easier for me to handle the files if a single movie is a single file.



XBMC is an open source (free) application that provides an interface to the database and allows you to browse the files on your network in order to select the movie to play. It, XBMC, then handles the actual video playback, at 1080p if desired, and the audio. I use an iPad as the remote for the system controlling the XBMC application via the network.
Posted on: 21 February 2011 by garyi
On mac, I use a programme called 'Ripit' which simply strips out any encyrption and rips the TS folder to the computer.

I can then either leave it like this and bang it on the nas or run it through DVD2ONEX which does not convert it mearly extracts the relevent part of the the VPB files within the tsfolder. The benefit of this is it takes about 7 minutes to sort out a video as opposed to an hour or more when transcoding.

This resultant file is stuck in a suitably named folder such as 'Superman (1979)' and banged in my films folder on the nas.

The wonderful XBMC then picks this up and finds the detail and lovely art work for it so this is what I see on my TV screen:




A little geekery is involved but XBMC is our primary method of watching TV, with the added bonus of an iPlayer pluggin which even taps the HD streams.
Posted on: 25 February 2011 by Phil Harris
Originally Posted by GreenAlex:
CONs imho:
- takes up lots of disc space (100 DVD = 800GB)
- needs a server which adds cost and increases energy consumption unnecessarily (more an environmental factor to me...and adds cost)
- takes ages to rip

I have played around with streaming media to my client and it does work well even for 1080.

But just like with my CD collection it takes ages to rip them all.

I set up a 4 drive rip-station with 3 external usb drives using dbPoweramo (for my CDs) but still couldn't get myself to finish the deed as it is tidious and takes too long.

It's a nice little project if you have the time. But ripping a DVD will take even longer.

If you have your DVDs in a folder rather than their cases they can't take up that much space, or can they?

More than a server would? Or is there a server running anyway?

I like the idea of 24/7 access from anywhere within the house. But then you need clients everywhere.

Hi,

The storage space really isn't an issue anymore - 1Tb of storage (around 200 DVDs in reality if you don't bother with extras etc) is about £40 and 2Tb drives (400 DVDs) are hovering around the £70 mark.

Ripping a DVD on my desktop PC takes about 6 minutes for most discs using AnyDVD / CloneDVD (including removing all the stuff that you might not want such as menus, extras and foreign language audio / subtitles).

Even 1080p Blu-Ray's play perfectly across my network - I have a Popcorn Hour C200 in my living room and the old (discontinued?) A110 as bedroom players.

My server currently runs to about 27Tb, holds my DVD, Blu-Ray and CD collections and keeps the chill off my bathroom.

Phil
Posted on: 25 February 2011 by Phil Harris
Originally Posted by GreenAlex:
If I were to pay, honestly, it would have to be 1080p and not 576p as with DVDs.

I definitely would not pay for online content that was not HD.



@Mr Underhill:

Why LAN, why not WLAN?

I can understand the desire for 1080p in the numbers game but streaming 1080p across the internet as it currently stands would generally involve compression so agressive that the resolution advantage would be outweighed by the loss of detail.

I have the LoveFilm online movie service and that's pretty dire - not a patch on a DVD let alone Blu-Ray ... Give it time and the bandwidth to your property will be there but it isn't there yet.

As for why not WLAN? Well wireless networking is far too susceptible to external influences that you have absolutely no control over - every man and his dog has a wireless network now and if you live in a heavily populated area there may be 20 or more wireless networks in range of your own - all trying to compete for channels and bandwidth with the result that everyone gets poor throughput and inconsistent connections ... wired should be the preferred solution every time.

Cheers

Phil
Posted on: 27 February 2011 by Tog
Handbrake on a Mac to rip

Movies look great on Mac 27 inch monitor

Will stream well via Apple TV



Vortexbox 1.8 - automatically rips DVD to mkv - metadata/cover art  lookup still patchy - BR still to come.



Tog

Posted on: 28 February 2011 by Mr Underhill
Just been over to Ukraine on a skiing holiday - and so used handbrake to rip about 30 DVDs at a lower quality, for playback ona Asus EEEEEEEEE. Made the traveling more bearable.

Still toying with whether this is worthwhile for my general collection.

M