Squeezebox Touch and NAS

Posted by: Rockingdoc on 26 January 2011

Is anybody here using the Squeezebox Touch directly from a NAS? I decided to get a Squeezebox to practice this streaming malarky before shelling out the big money for a Naim or Linn unit. It appears to need the Squeezebox software to be running on a separate computer on the network that the NAS is connected to, although this does allow access to files on the NAS. Has anyone had success running a Touch with only a NAS on the network? Look on the Squeezebox forum you will say. Well, I have and the issue isn't addressed for current NAS like my QNAP 209,. Besides I tend to get replies I can understand here.

BTW I am using wired Cat6 throughout, and despite running the Touch into an external DAC, the sound is nothing to get excited about.
Posted on: 26 January 2011 by Tog
Don't use the touch at the moment but if you have a spare PC - try installing Vortexbox which comes with a full Squeezebox Server and can even pretend to be a Squeezebox. As a NAS mine has been faultless.

Tog
Posted on: 26 January 2011 by garyi

QNAP can have squeezecentre installed on it. You then point it at your music and it will become available to your SB.

I tried vortexbox for a few weeks, I found it far to flakey, constant dropping of DAAP streams for itunes and very slow to rip. Also there was a memory leek in there somewhere. I started with 512 megs which showed as 98% used. Then I stuck in a gig and it starts at 23% and over the space of a few hours creeps up to 98% even if nothing is occuring.

It also requires miximoso geekness, ssh'ing into it to mount drives and the likes.

Posted on: 26 January 2011 by garyi

I would post a link for you but this forum software does not appear to support copy paste.

Goto  www.qnap.com and type in syeezebox in the search and it provides instructions.

Posted on: 26 January 2011 by david.m.72
I use a Touch with a Netgear ReadyNas Duo NAS drive using the native squeezeserver software running on the NAS drive.

This has worked really well for around a year now playing flac files recorded onto the NAS. The sound quality is excellent  ( given the price ) and the practicality of having all your cds copied to a NAS drive and available wirelessly around the house is brilliant.

I downloaded the new Spotify app for the Touch yesterday and am having one or two problems that appear to be related to an inconsistency between the ReadyNas + Touch + Spotify setup. It's early days though and hopefully this can be sorted out  with a bit more fiddling.
Posted on: 26 January 2011 by Tog
@Garyi







Sorry to hear about Vortexbox problems. I agree it does take a while to rip but on mine it is doing a comparison rip and ripping a mirror copy in alac. If you have set yours to mirror it will add to the time but you can always turn it off. I haven't noticed a memory leak but you are quite right it can be a bit of a geek exercise to get going - once you get your head around bash commands they make a hell of a lot more logical sense that anything in Windoze. I think 2mb is an acceptable minimum and I haven't had any issues so far.







DAAP is definitely a weakness - forked daapd can be unstable with large libraries but the developers are playing catch up with Apple who are quite happy to break third party DAAP products like Firefly with each release of iTunes.







IMHO Asset and VB are the best current choices for non Naim UPnP software.







Tog
Posted on: 28 January 2011 by Rockingdoc
The problem with QNAP is that it seems to need SSOTS third-party plug-in firmware installed by download fron the web, and then the Squeezecentre software installed after that from a zipped .tgz file. My problem is that I don't know how to unzip  .tgz files in the NAS, or indeed where in the NAS to install it anyway. I wish I'd bought a Netgear if it comes ready installed.
Posted on: 28 January 2011 by likesmusic
If you google "qnap squeezecenter ripcaster" you should get some instructions for installing squeezecenter on qnap nas's from the ripcaster site.
Posted on: 28 January 2011 by Rockingdoc
Cooo, thanks. I'm going to give it a try. However, having read the complex instructions, I don't feel quite so dim for not being able to work it out myself.
This certainly is a bit more demanding than inserting a pair of phono plugs in the back of a CD player and popping a disk in.
Posted on: 28 January 2011 by Rosewind
I used to own a Qnap 209. At that time there were two ways to get SqueezeCenter on the QNap:

Qnap's own package installation or FlipFlip's SSOTS. IN the beginning I used SSOTS but then I got lazy and simply used the Qnap version which worked well enough for me.

You should be able to download the package to your computer on the Qnap website and then install it through Qnap Finder - the tab "package installation" (or something like that it was called).

Good luck!

Peter
Posted on: 28 January 2011 by garyi
Its not particularly difficult, but importantly if you find this too hard, then the whole distributed audio thing may not be a positive.
Posted on: 28 January 2011 by Tog
Most good things in life require a little effort.



Tog
Posted on: 29 January 2011 by Rockingdoc
Well it is all working fine now, and thanks for the pointers. However, I did find it particularly difficult to get the SSOTS to actually work on the Qnap 219P I've got as opposed to the 209 I thought I had, because the newer versions of the firmware don't like the old versions of plug-in available. Obviously, I must be a bit dim. Tough luck on you 'cos it looks like I'll be running your health service
Posted on: 29 January 2011 by Rosewind
Good that you got it to work!

Best wishes,
Peter