Its ripping, but where is it?

Posted by: analog414 on 11 August 2013

Just started ripping cd's with my new Unityserve. Everything was working fine using the Synology NAS. All of a sudden no new ripped cd's are showing up on the NAS. In the Naim desktop client, it's showing the rip in the ripping monitor. But these latest rips are not in the NAS. I did restart both but to no avail. Where are they going?

Posted on: 11 August 2013 by hungryhalibut

Is it the ordinary UnitiServe, or the SSD? If the former, they will be in the UnitiServe. 

Posted on: 11 August 2013 by analog414

It is the SSD UnityServe.

Posted on: 11 August 2013 by hungryhalibut

If you look in the web interface, you should see the music store being used. I've just bought a synology, and am having a nightmare!

Posted on: 11 August 2013 by garyi

I am starting to detect a pattern with recent problems.

Posted on: 11 August 2013 by analog414

I took a few screen shots from ripping a Strawbs cd. NO JOY!

screen shot 1screen shot 2NAS

Posted on: 11 August 2013 by PureHifi
In the DTC, check and make sure that the NAS store nominated is top of the order above the internal store of an SSD serve. If the NAS store is lower in priority then you can increase its priority or lower the internal priority to make it the top priority (normally it would be that automatically). You may have to remove the store and then add it back in as a store (promoted from a share). The SSD drive has around 6gb of internal storage to hold the rip while it is being completed and checked, before being dispatched to a permanent store...but if the internal store has a higher priority in the list of stores then that's where it will stay.
Posted on: 11 August 2013 by Cbr600
Originally Posted by PureHifi:
In the DTC, check and make sure that the NAS store nominated is top of the order above the internal store of an SSD serve. If the NAS store is lower in priority then you can increase its priority or lower the internal priority to make it the top priority (normally it would be that automatically). You may have to remove the store and then add it back in as a store (promoted from a share). The SSD drive has around 6gb of internal storage to hold the rip while it is being completed and checked, before being dispatched to a permanent store...but if the internal store has a higher priority in the list of stores then that's where it will stay.

Is there a new manual detailing the changes for the DTC latest version?

Posted on: 11 August 2013 by analog414

Not sure how to do this. This is all brand new to me.

?? Priority ??

Posted on: 12 August 2013 by Bart
Originally Posted by garyi:

I am starting to detect a pattern with recent problems.

I wish there were a pattern -- one that'd help me/us/Naim get to the bottom of what's going on for some of us.  My guess is that, like most home networking issues, the fact that each user has a rather unique combination of nas/home router/settings/wifi robustness/etc etc, it's just the randomness of the universe creeping in. 

Posted on: 12 August 2013 by Bart
I'm at work right now and so can't get into the DTC deep enough to say more than to start under the Tools tab that you see there.  You will find a menu about 'stores' and when you find the list of stores, there is a way to select which one it uses first (that is, to prioritize them) I'm pretty sure.
 
If the uServe is ripping, it has to be ripping to SOMEWHERE   I don't think it'd appear to rip a cd at all if it was not connected to a store.
 
 
Originally Posted by analog414:

Not sure how to do this. This is all brand new to me.

?? Priority ??

 

Posted on: 14 August 2013 by analog414

I did look at the internal SSD space and your right, the last cd ripped is sitting there. Why it won't go to the folder were everything else ripped is still a mystery. Its only been a month.

Posted on: 14 August 2013 by winkyincanada

The nightmare world of streaming: NAS, twonky servers and streamers...

 

The work of the devil....

Posted on: 14 August 2013 by Bart
Originally Posted by analog414:

I did look at the internal SSD space and your right, the last cd ripped is sitting there. Why it won't go to the folder were everything else ripped is still a mystery. Its only been a month.

You do need to change the priority in the DTC.  Pick the store you want to rip to, and 'increase its priority.'
  Otherwise it'll just keep ripping to the ssd, which is not what you want.

Posted on: 15 August 2013 by analog414
Originally Posted by Bart:
Originally Posted by analog414:

I did look at the internal SSD space and your right, the last cd ripped is sitting there. Why it won't go to the folder were everything else ripped is still a mystery. Its only been a month.

You do need to change the priority in the DTC.  Pick the store you want to rip to, and 'increase its priority.'
  Otherwise it'll just keep ripping to the ssd, which is not what you want.

Bart I assume DTC means Naim Desktop Client? I see RickNAS\CD_Music........this is where the rips should be going. Please show how to "increase priority". I see zero option.

 

OK, I found a page and here it is.

 

How do I add the store here?priority page

Posted on: 15 August 2013 by Bart

The only music store I see in that screenshot is the default store on your ssd, which of course is too small to use.  I don't see RickNAS\CD_Music in that screenshot.  It appears that you've not made that folder into a music store.  The uServe manual has a good description of how to do that.

 

Once you've done that, you can select it in the screen you posted, and click the Increase button which as you can see in your screenshot is grayed out presently.

 

Posted on: 16 August 2013 by analog414
Originally Posted by Bart:

The only music store I see in that screenshot is the default store on your ssd, which of course is too small to use.  I don't see RickNAS\CD_Music in that screenshot.  It appears that you've not made that folder into a music store.  The uServe manual has a good description of how to do that.

 

Once you've done that, you can select it in the screen you posted, and click the Increase button which as you can see in your screenshot is grayed out presently.

 

This was all set up and working perfectly (not by me) until mid July. I did nothing that i can think of to make it magically disappear .

Posted on: 17 August 2013 by hungryhalibut

Have a look at my thread about synology. There is some really useful stuff, from others i hasten to add.

 

Have you fixed the IP address of the Serve with Naim's set IP tool? Have you set the IP address of the NAS, including the address, subnet mask and dns server address? I had no idea what any of this was, but once set it all works now. Change the name of your music store to all one word and all lower case.

 

Once it is all correct, you will see the NAS as a store, and can select it. You need to think about show you will do a backup as well, unless you are relying on the CDs for that. I only use my NAS as backup, with the prime copy in the Serve.