Why do this to a Blue Note record

Posted by: fatcat on 21 August 2013

Or for that matter, any record.

 

Came across a nice record collection at an auction, nothing exceptional except for the Blue Note.

 

Every edge of the sleeve is cellotaped. probably looked nice when first done, but now the cellotape and the sleeve below is a brown colour.

 

The gatefolds got extra treatment. The gatefold is cellotaped at the bottom, so it can no longer be opened.

 

The Blue Note would be worth a couple of hundred, but in this condition

 

 

 

Posted on: 21 August 2013 by winkyincanada

But what condition is the record in? Isn't that the real issue?

Posted on: 21 August 2013 by Timbo

I've got Blues from Laurel Canyon - great album and in perfect nick. When I repair my albums, usually the ones I have been given I use special glue for the sleeves, use new inners where required and also keep the old inners if they have extra info etc. and of course use my HW17 to thoroughly wash them.

 

Tim 

Posted on: 21 August 2013 by Frank Abela

It was quite common for people to tape up the extremities of their records in order to keep the sleeve from scuffing and fraying over time. The view was to keep it in good condition, and apart from the discolouration you'll probably find it's in pretty good nick.

 

If anything it's a sign that it was owned by somebody relatively fastidious about keeping the records in good shape.

 

Regards,
Frank.
All opinions are my own and do not reflect the opinion of any organisations I work for, except where this is stated explicitly.

Posted on: 21 August 2013 by 911gt3r

" IT WAS QUITE COMMON FOR PEOPLE TO TAPE UP THE EXTREMETIES " , YOU are a BAD BAD BOY Frank !  ATB Peter

Posted on: 21 August 2013 by fatcat
Originally Posted by Frank Abela:

It was quite common for people to tape up the extremities of their records in order to keep the sleeve from scuffing and fraying over time. The view was to keep it in good condition, and apart from the discolouration you'll probably find it's in pretty good nick.

 

If anything it's a sign that it was owned by somebody relatively fastidious about keeping the records in good shape.

 

Regards,
Frank.
All opinions are my own and do not reflect the opinion of any organisations I work for, except where this is stated explicitly.

That sounds spot on.

 

The records where visually in mint condition.  Where the tape had disintegrated on the spines, they appeared in mint condition, apart from the discolouration.

 

I wish I'd put a bid in now.

Posted on: 21 August 2013 by Steve J

Fatcat,

 

The book price on that Eric Gale Blue Note album is only £15 in mint condition so you didn't miss out on a potential investment. The "Laurel Canyon" LP looks like a late reissue as the spine doesn't look like it is a gatefold.

 

Steve

Posted on: 21 August 2013 by fatcat

Steve

 

I agree with you 100% with regards the John Mayall LP, it definitely doesn't look like a gatefold, and not an original issue. I've just checked my gatefold copy and it's got a thick black spine and laminated.

 

However, just checked my phone, I took a photo of the inside of the gatefold, but, it is hard to believe it is gatefold from looking the the picture I posted this morning.

 

I didn't bid on the records, as I'd spent my pennies on a turntable.

 

 

 

Posted on: 25 August 2013 by Briz Vegas

I though someone had used it for a coaster or as road base of something.

 

Why do we only value stuff for what it's worth on the market If we sold it at auction?

 

 

Posted on: 25 August 2013 by GregU

What does the word "nick" mean?

Posted on: 27 August 2013 by Chris Kelly
Originally Posted by GregU:

What does the word "nick" mean?

In that context it means condition

Posted on: 27 August 2013 by Richard Dane
Originally Posted by fatcat:

Steve

 

I agree with you 100% with regards the John Mayall LP, it definitely doesn't look like a gatefold, and not an original issue. I've just checked my gatefold copy and it's got a thick black spine and laminated.

 

However, just checked my phone, I took a photo of the inside of the gatefold, but, it is hard to believe it is gatefold from looking the the picture I posted this morning.

 

I didn't bid on the records, as I'd spent my pennies on a turntable.

 

 

 

 

OK FC, you need to tell us more about this one.  I've never seen one of these before.  Looks like a JBE, but a little different to any I've seen.

Posted on: 27 August 2013 by Frank Abela

C'mon fatcat, tell us about the deck!

 

Regards,
Frank.
All opinions are my own and do not reflect the opinion of any organisations I work for, except where this is stated explicitly.

Posted on: 27 August 2013 by fatcat

I know very little about the deck, as Richard said it looks like a JBE, although I must admit, before I searched for Environmental Sound I'd never heard of JBE.

 

It's obviously a copy of a JBE, but with the electronics inside the plinth as opposed to an external control unit. It's direct drive, 33 and 45, with strobe adjustment, fitted with an SME 3009 S2 improved and an A&R P77.

 

The plinth and lid are hand built, but very neatly done and in excellent condition.

 

There's information regarding Environmental Sound on the JBE website, they where in production from 78 to 82. They also made speakers. Bizarrely speakers disguised as a Victorian tables and others made from plastic waste bins from habitat.

 

http://www.jbe-turntables.co.u...tal-sound/4537094384

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Posted on: 28 August 2013 by Richard Dane

Thanks FC,  very interesting,  It looks like it has an underslung strobe disc running within the plinth, a bit like the IMF turntable. A stylift on there too I see...

Posted on: 28 August 2013 by fatcat

It's all done with mirrors. Well, one mirror.

 

There is a small mirror recessed into the plinth. The white dots are on the underside of the platter

Posted on: 28 August 2013 by Richard Dane

Ah thanks, mystery solved.  Yes that would make sense.  Again, a little off topic - does it use a Matsushita/Technics motor?  If so, they often have a date marker on them.

Posted on: 28 August 2013 by fatcat

No indication of motor manufacture, it had a sticker, but is no longer present. Just a patch of glue.