Spotify

Posted by: rupert on 29 October 2013

hi I have lots of hi fi gear expensive speakers amps extra having tried spotify through cheap eltex speakers and amp ,On my PC  it is an opener I think naim should move with the times and install it on thier sytems it is that good regards

Posted on: 02 November 2013 by Sloop John B
Originally Posted by rupert:

hi I have lots of hi fi gear expensive speakers amps extra having tried spotify through cheap eltex speakers and amp ,On my PC  it is an opener I think naim should move with the times and install it on thier sytems it is that good regards

 

 

Seconded.

 

 

SJB

Posted on: 02 November 2013 by The Man With Nonaim

Salisbury are really missing a trick here.  

 

I used to use a NDX/N-DAC/non-Naim XPS.  I heard a Squeezebox Touch / S.T. Power Supply / Dac into an amp with SBLS (everything except the S.T. and SBLs were made by the same manufacturer) and was absolutely staggered by the music I heard (with Spotify as the source). Now I own a very similar system (IBLs instead of SBLs) and have no regrets about making the change.  

 

I was a Naim customer for 30 years but cannot see me returning to the fold until there is a bit more of an open mind at HQ.  Like it or not, Spotify and the like are here to stay. Naim should acknowledge this and incorporate some more functionality in their streamers.  Logitech managed it in a product that cost £140 so there really is no excuse for the omission.

Posted on: 03 November 2013 by Louis-Andre
Totally agree, Naim is making a mistake not endorsing Spotify. This is the reason I did not move to their streamers
Posted on: 04 November 2013 by Gordon McGlade
Originally Posted by The Man With Nonaim:

  Logitech managed it in a product that cost £140 so there really is no excuse for the omission.

Yes and how many do Logitech build in a year? 100,000+

 

That is the issue, real world economics!

 

Posted on: 04 November 2013 by dave4jazz
Originally Posted by Gordon McGlade:
Originally Posted by The Man With Nonaim:

  Logitech managed it in a product that cost £140 so there really is no excuse for the omission.

Yes and how many do Logitech build in a year? 100,000+

 

That is the issue, real world economics!

 

You have a valid point but there is at least one other UK high-end hi-fi manufacturer that has Spotify available on it's streamers. But I don't understand why Logitech stopped manufacturing their Squeezebox streamers.

Posted on: 04 November 2013 by The Man With Nonaim

Would have thought that the number of untils built is irrelevant.

 

Look at it from Spotify's perspective.  They want every piece of kit to be Spotify enabled as this allows more people to access their service.  I cannot imagine that Sportify are charging some exorbitant sum for a licence.

 

My understanding on the Squeezebox was that it was dropped as it did not fit into Logitech's portfolio of products for the future.  A real disappointment as my Squeezebox touch / power supply into a dac is as good to my ears as my old NDX etc as in my post above.  Perhaps it's too good for its own good......

Posted on: 04 November 2013 by Gordon McGlade
Originally Posted by The Man With Nonaim:

Would have thought that the number of untils built is irrelevant.

 

Look at it from Spotify's perspective.  They want every piece of kit to be Spotify enabled as this allows more people to access their service.  I cannot imagine that Sportify are charging some exorbitant sum for a licence.

 

 

You could not be more wrong!

 

Posted on: 04 November 2013 by Gordon McGlade
Originally Posted by dave4jazz:
Originally Posted by Gordon McGlade:
Originally Posted by The Man With Nonaim:

  Logitech managed it in a product that cost £140 so there really is no excuse for the omission.

Yes and how many do Logitech build in a year? 100,000+

 

That is the issue, real world economics!

 

You have a valid point but there is at least one other UK high-end hi-fi manufacturer that has Spotify available on it's streamers. But I don't understand why Logitech stopped manufacturing their Squeezebox streamers.

I assume you mean LINN. Well you should check that out, they do not actually have Spotify ON their streaming products…..read their specification closely and you will not see Spotify

 

 

Posted on: 04 November 2013 by dave4jazz
Originally Posted by Gordon McGlade:
I assume you mean LINN. Well you should check that out, they do not actually have Spotify ON their streaming products…..read their specification closely and you will not see Spotify.

Well OK it's not actually ON their product but the control software application is available. This is what it says on the website under control & choose of music:

If you prefer to stick to iTunes, Spotify or whatever you normally use, that's fine too. Download our Songcast app and anything you play will come through your Linn system, letting you enjoy your favourite tunes in Linn quality.

Posted on: 05 November 2013 by Gordon McGlade
Correct and they pay no license to Spotify, nor do they pay Apple for Airplay, which they officially do not support but it is ON their streaming products. 
 
Naim will not go down that route for various technical, commercial and of course, legal reasons.
 
 
 
Originally Posted by dave4jazz:
Originally Posted by Gordon McGlade:
I assume you mean LINN. Well you should check that out, they do not actually have Spotify ON their streaming products…..read their specification closely and you will not see Spotify.

Well OK it's not actually ON their product but the control software application is available. This is what it says on the website under control & choose of music:

If you prefer to stick to iTunes, Spotify or whatever you normally use, that's fine too. Download our Songcast app and anything you play will come through your Linn system, letting you enjoy your favourite tunes in Linn quality.

 

Posted on: 05 November 2013 by dave4jazz
Originally Posted by Gordon McGlade:
Correct and they pay no license to Spotify, nor do they pay Apple for Airplay, which they officially do not support but it is ON their streaming products. 
 
Naim will not go down that route for various technical, commercial and of course, legal reasons.
 
 
 
Originally Posted by dave4jazz:
Originally Posted by Gordon McGlade:
I assume you mean LINN. Well you should check that out, they do not actually have Spotify ON their streaming products…..read their specification closely and you will not see Spotify.

Well OK it's not actually ON their product but the control software application is available. This is what it says on the website under control & choose of music:

If you prefer to stick to iTunes, Spotify or whatever you normally use, that's fine too. Download our Songcast app and anything you play will come through your Linn system, letting you enjoy your favourite tunes in Linn quality.

 

From what I can see Naim seem to be putting their money on Qobuz.

Posted on: 05 November 2013 by GerryMcg
Originally Posted by dave4jazz:
 

Well OK it's not actually ON their product but the control software application is available. This is what it says on the website under control & choose of music:

If you prefer to stick to iTunes, Spotify or whatever you normally use, that's fine too. Download our Songcast app and anything you play will come through your Linn system, letting you enjoy your favourite tunes in Linn quality.

In fact you can do something similar this with Naim players. I use Jamcast on my laptop which streams Spotify to my NDS.

 

Gerry

Posted on: 05 November 2013 by NickSeattle

I use my SBT to play Spotify Premium.  I do not yet have a Naim streamer or server.  I think it is the Logitech Media Server software running on my Mac that serves Spotify to the SBT device using a plugin (provided by Spotify?); I do not think the device itself has any built-in Spotify capability.  I see there is no DLNA support from Spotify yet. Surprising!  Wouldn't that be the best answer?  I guess a plugin for Unity Serve/HDX would be better, potentially.

 

Nick