Bicycle Bits! - What’s your latest acquisition?

Posted by: naim_nymph on 01 November 2013

With so many forum folk with an interest in cycling it would be fun and informative if we shared our thoughts of cycling products recently purchased, frames, wheels, bike parts, accessories, clothing, shoes, helmets, puncture outfits - anything you like to do with your bicycle and bicycling.

 

 

To start the show… i’ve just changed my pair of 700x23mm tyres from Continental 4 season which have lasted three times longer than the recommended 3 years and not once ever punctured. Considering my usual ride is country lanes with farm yards and bits of countryside ever-present on the bumpy [Paris-Roubaix?] type tarmac it is a good test for any tyre.

 

The new tyres i just fitted are brand new Continental 4 season of the same size again - Why change when you have a good thing?

The 4 season is a very light weight folding tyre, puncture resistance built in, and fantastic road grip in the wet. They are expensive but they do last longer and imo are safer than most cheaper types so perhaps the value for money is actually very good in the long run.

 

I can’t recommend them highly enough!

Posted on: 31 December 2013 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by Huwge:

Winky, it's probably psychological more than anything but I have first hand experience of failures - fortunately not my own but in the group. That said, my neighbour loves them and is always trying to get me to switch. My LBS has tried to upsell most components that I use, but has avoided pushing the carbon bars. I guess I ought to give them a go some day 

The only bar I've ever broken was an aluminium one. It broke while just riding along a couple days after the crash. I'd also be really suspicious of riding a carbon bar after a crash, though. Fortunately, I've never crashed a carbon bar. But I really like the feel of carbon bars. Kind of "lively" compared to Al.

Posted on: 31 December 2013 by naim_nymph

My latest acquisition was a couple of months ago -

 

 

I chose the silver colour

It’s only function on my bike is to hold the rear part of the mudguard from above, using zip-ties. Being a very narrow rack this actually does this job very well.

My rear SKS mudguard needs to be in 2 parts, and neither part goes under the brake calliper.

The shorter length forward mudguard part is bolted at the bottom bracket bridge, and zip-tied at brake hanger bridge - just forward of the brake calliper.

The much longer length of rear part of the mudguard stops short of the brake calliper and is held securely by the rack.

It’s the best I can do with the very limited clearance between brake calliper and tyre, the result is over-engineered but works well until the road gets very muddy and clogs up the brake calliper area. They’re not called mudguards for nothing.

The only other way to fix the problem is to buy another frame with the bridges in the correct places, and it may come to that one day...

 

Debs

Posted on: 01 January 2014 by northpole

Debs

 

I'm not sure about the frame you currently have, but have you considered the Crud Guards?  They fitted well onto my Roubaix Pro frame which has fairly tight clearances.  They are limited in tyre width though.  Your solution, whilst effective, looks a bit like permanent scaffolding!!

Peter

Posted on: 01 January 2014 by naim_nymph

Peter,

 

i have a 2005 model Trek 1000 WSD

 

 

 

I purchased mine a year or two after 2005 when it was a last years model bargain.

You can't expect perfection with a £450 bike, but the Trek 1000 does has a lot of remarkable good points for little money, and what i particularly liked about it was the inclusion of very sensible mudguard eyelets on dropouts, bottom bracket, and even eyelets for rack on the stays, so with its racing geometry this makes for a good fun all year round hack.

 

However, my Trek 1000 frame, which incidentally is made in Taiwan, good as it may be for the line entry money, has just one little misfortune; to of had the brake hanger bridge welded too low down the stays so there can not ever be enough room [6mm between calliper and tyre] for any mudguard or rizza red to go between. This is a shame because at a stroke it eliminates all the use of the bolt eyelets. At the time i checked another Trek 1000 frame at my local bike shop which was the same so i suppose this problem is a batch fault at the frame builders.

I tried fitting Crud Roadracer MK2 Guards and found the rear didn't have enough room under the rear brake calliper, and also didn't like the wobbly feel and nature of the design, so went back to using my modified SKS.

 

BTW - your Colnago frame looks very cool, it would be sacrificial to the goddess of dark glasses to put mudguard eyelets on a frame like that, but if you ever want to swap for my Trek…

 

Debs

Posted on: 01 January 2014 by Bruce Woodhouse

Got my MTB out for a wet and muddy start to the year and discovered I have finally managed to kill the Chris King headset. Not bad considering it it is the original one fitted to my first proper MTB and each subsequent frame ie maybe 15 years of use. 

 

Best buy another.

 

Bruce

Posted on: 01 January 2014 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by Bruce Woodhouse:

Got my MTB out for a wet and muddy start to the year and discovered I have finally managed to kill the Chris King headset. Not bad considering it it is the original one fitted to my first proper MTB and each subsequent frame ie maybe 15 years of use. 

 

Best buy another.

 

Bruce

Chris will probably rebuild it for you. A 15 year-old CK headset is just a teenager.

Posted on: 01 January 2014 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by naim_nymph:

Peter,

 

i have a 2005 model Trek 1000 WSD

 

 

 

....went back to using my modified SKS.

  

 

Debs

I think you just need to be a little creative to fit the guards to a frame like that. You need to make a little T-shaped bracket out of a metal strap (like piece of Meccano) that bolts on with the brakes that extends forward (under the bridge) and rearward (under the brake). The two halves of the guard rivet or bolt to the ends of the bracket. We fit guards to race frames all the time like this. You can even buy split guards in this configuration now.

 

Posted on: 01 January 2014 by naim_nymph

Winky,

 

anything that goes between the calliper and tyre will reduce the room needed for grit, mud, etc to pass though, and it looks like your idea does just that so it wouldn't work on my bike.

My only options are, replace the frame or bike, move to somewhere that's not muddy, or fit the mudguard to the underside of a rack - which is actually being very creative, and after two months it seems to work okay with an occasional need to poke out clogged mud.

 

Debs

Posted on: 01 January 2014 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by naim_nymph:

Winky,

 

anything that goes between the calliper and tyre will reduce the room needed for grit, mud, etc to pass though, and it looks like your idea does just that so it wouldn't work on my bike.

My only options are, replace the frame or bike, move to somewhere that's not muddy, or fit the mudguard to the underside of a rack - which is actually being very creative, and after two months it seems to work okay with an occasional need to poke out clogged mud.

 

Debs

The bracket-bit that goes under the brake is maybe 0.5mm thick. If that is too much (which it may be - my Colnagao doesn't have that much clearance), you need to make your own brackets that go over the bridge and brake. It just requires a bit ot metal bending and drilling. Be careful not to interfere with the brake operation, of course.

Posted on: 01 January 2014 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by naim_nymph:

Winky,

 

anything that goes between the calliper and tyre will reduce the room needed for grit, mud, etc to pass though, and it looks like your idea does just that so it wouldn't work on my bike.

My only options are, replace the frame or bike, move to somewhere that's not muddy, or fit the mudguard to the underside of a rack - which is actually being very creative, and after two months it seems to work okay with an occasional need to poke out clogged mud.

 

Debs

Of course, if you don't ride in a group, you don't need a mudguard at all.

Posted on: 02 January 2014 by northpole

Of course, if you don't ride in a group, you don't need a mudguard at all.

 

Speak for yourself Winky!!

 

I spent years 'enjoying' the freedom from mudguards on my daily commute in London until I fitted a set of the rather Heath Robinson-esque Crud Guards.  It was only then I appreciated how much benefit there is from mud guards - not only minimising spray over my front and back but also severely reducing the amount of water and grit spraying onto and into the drivetrain components.  For commuting in UK in winter, they are a godsend.

 

Peter

Posted on: 02 January 2014 by naim_nymph

+1 to wot Peter said.

 

On my rides when i used the quick-release crud catcher [photo right] i used to come home with loads of mud spots up my back. It isn't good enough for winter rides but it may come in handy for those occasional wet summer rides when the mudguards are off.

 

Today i came home though some flood water, only a few inches deep but traffic was causing it to surf up in two directions, felt almost sea sick riding over it for 100m or so but the wash cleaned all the mud off nicely!

 

Anyway, another way of resolving my mudguard clearance issue would be to relocate the rear brake hanger hole to a new position just above the brake hanger bridge. But this would require a neat and strongly engineered bolt/clamp device to bolt though the orignal hole and to give an aditional brake hanger hole above. This would put the whole calliper approx 1cm higher, so the lowest part would become the bridge itself.

Doing this would give another 5mm of room, and that would be enough.

 

Debs

Posted on: 02 January 2014 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by naim_nymph:

+1 to wot Peter said.

 

On my rides when i used the quick-release crud catcher [photo right] i used to come home with loads of mud spots up my back. It isn't good enough for winter rides but it may come in handy for those occasional wet summer rides when the mudguards are off.

 

Today i came home though some flood water, only a few inches deep but traffic was causing it to surf up in two directions, felt almost sea sick riding over it for 100m or so but the wash cleaned all the mud off nicely!

 

Anyway, another way of resolving my mudguard clearance issue would be to relocate the rear brake hanger hole to a new position just above the brake hanger bridge. But this would require a neat and strongly engineered bolt/clamp device to bolt though the orignal hole and to give an aditional brake hanger hole above. This would put the whole calliper approx 1cm higher, so the lowest part would become the bridge itself.

Doing this would give another 5mm of room, and that would be enough.

 

Debs

The difference is that I don't really mind a bunch of mud up my back. I can't see it, so it doesn't bother me. My clothes get wet and dirty anyway. It is no extra effort to wash "very, very dirty" clothes compared to washing simply "dirty" clothes.

 

Your solution of just using a rack to hold the guard is perhaps the best one. I can imagine the bracket you're speaking of, but it would likely cost more to engineer and build than a new frame that does have the clearance.

Posted on: 03 January 2014 by Joff

White pedals for a Whyte bike...

 

 

Joff

Posted on: 03 January 2014 by RaceTripper
Originally Posted by Joff:

White pedals for a Whyte bike...

 

 

 

Joff

Interesting. White Shimano trail pedals. Is that custom? It's not in the Shimano U.S. catalog. I have the standard black Deore XT trail pedals.

Posted on: 03 January 2014 by Singlespeed
Originally Posted by winkyincanada:

That Surly is a classic tourer. Here's a couple of shots of my Cannondale T2000. Sadly now being used to commute to work rather than tour the globe.

 

gordon franklin np entrance bike by winkyintheuk, on Flickr

 

 

Nice rig Winky, never say never...

 

Originally Posted by Marky Mark:
Originally Posted by Singlespeed:

It's fun on smooth single track (wheelies real well!) but in the rough stuff it can get a bit much not having any springs!

Sounds interesting. There is a real appeal to dispensing with suspension. Setting aside the clear multi-functional advantages of the bike does it feel at all weighty / unwieldy in pure MTB mode when riding mid-level off-road? Not so much hardcore technical stuff in mind here but a certain step-up from fire road.......so winding through trees, speeding round berms, bunny-hopping tree roots, seat of the pants at speed - you know the stuff

Well I've never owned a sus mtb so I'm used to the rigid feel of it. I think it's nice and direct in handling as I always found 'springs' pretty vague handling wise when jumping, hopping etc...

If you are used to a ful sus rig then it would be a wake up call & a half!?

Posted on: 03 January 2014 by Singlespeed
Originally Posted by naim_nymph:
Anyway, another way of resolving my mudguard clearance issue would be to relocate the rear brake hanger hole to a new position just above the brake hanger bridge. But this would require a neat and strongly engineered bolt/clamp device to bolt though the orignal hole and to give an aditional brake hanger hole above. This would put the whole calliper approx 1cm higher, so the lowest part would become the bridge itself.

Doing this would give another 5mm of room, and that would be enough.

 

Debs

Debs

 

The SKS road racers would most likely fit as I've fitted them to bikes with clearance of 6mm...

Posted on: 03 January 2014 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by Singlespeed:
Originally Posted by winkyincanada:

That Surly is a classic tourer. Here's a couple of shots of my Cannondale T2000. Sadly now being used to commute to work rather than tour the globe.

 

gordon franklin np entrance bike by winkyintheuk, on Flickr

 

 

Nice rig Winky, never say never...

 

 

That trip was "fully loaded" around Tasmania with camping gear. 2800km. Much of it on forestry/fire roads. No crashes, no flats and no broken spokes. It was great.

Posted on: 03 January 2014 by Joff
Originally Posted by RaceTripper:
Originally Posted by Joff:

White pedals for a Whyte bike...

 

 

 

Joff

Interesting. White Shimano trail pedals. Is that custom? It's not in the Shimano U.S. catalog. I have the standard black Deore XT trail pedals.

RT,

 

They are standard M530 pedals from Chain Reaction Cycles online store for £22, along with a black pair for my son.

 

I am planning on a run through the woods near to work next week to see how they perform.

 

Joff

Posted on: 03 January 2014 by RaceTripper
Originally Posted by Joff:
Originally Posted by RaceTripper:
Originally Posted by Joff:

White pedals for a Whyte bike...

 

 

 

Joff

Interesting. White Shimano trail pedals. Is that custom? It's not in the Shimano U.S. catalog. I have the standard black Deore XT trail pedals.

RT,

 

They are standard M530 pedals from Chain Reaction Cycles online store for £22, along with a black pair for my son.

 

I am planning on a run through the woods near to work next week to see how they perform.

 

Joff

Cool. If I ever get my wife into clipless, I'll get these since her mtn bike is white.

Posted on: 03 January 2014 by naim_nymph
Originally Posted by Singlespeed:
Originally Posted by naim_nymph:
Anyway, another way of resolving my mudguard clearance issue would be to relocate the rear brake hanger hole to a new position just above the brake hanger bridge. But this would require a neat and strongly engineered bolt/clamp device to bolt though the orignal hole and to give an aditional brake hanger hole above. This would put the whole calliper approx 1cm higher, so the lowest part would become the bridge itself.

Doing this would give another 5mm of room, and that would be enough.

 

Debs

Debs

 

The SKS road racers would most likely fit as I've fitted them to bikes with clearance of 6mm...


there is not enuff room

is not enuff room there

not enuff room there is

enuff room there is not

room there is not enuff

 

i've tried it all ways, as the actress said to the bishop

and as i've already pointed out a great many times before, 

the bridge position is too low down dodgy 

 

Debs

 

Posted on: 03 January 2014 by Joff
Originally Posted by RaceTripper:
Originally Posted by Joff:
Originally Posted by RaceTripper:
Originally Posted by Joff:

White pedals for a Whyte bike...

 

 

 

Joff

Interesting. White Shimano trail pedals. Is that custom? It's not in the Shimano U.S. catalog. I have the standard black Deore XT trail pedals.

RT,

 

They are standard M530 pedals from Chain Reaction Cycles online store for £22, along with a black pair for my son.

 

I am planning on a run through the woods near to work next week to see how they perform.

 

Joff

Cool. If I ever get my wife into clipless, I'll get these since her mtn bike is white.

RT,

 

One of my mates has white SL-SPDs on his white Giant Defy3 road bike. V cool.

 

Joff

Posted on: 03 January 2014 by Marky Mark
Originally Posted by Singlespeed:
Originally Posted by winkyincanada:

That Surly is a classic tourer. Here's a couple of shots of my Cannondale T2000. Sadly now being used to commute to work rather than tour the globe.

 

gordon franklin np entrance bike by winkyintheuk, on Flickr

 

 

Nice rig Winky, never say never...

 

Originally Posted by Marky Mark:
Originally Posted by Singlespeed:

It's fun on smooth single track (wheelies real well!) but in the rough stuff it can get a bit much not having any springs!

Sounds interesting. There is a real appeal to dispensing with suspension. Setting aside the clear multi-functional advantages of the bike does it feel at all weighty / unwieldy in pure MTB mode when riding mid-level off-road? Not so much hardcore technical stuff in mind here but a certain step-up from fire road.......so winding through trees, speeding round berms, bunny-hopping tree roots, seat of the pants at speed - you know the stuff

Well I've never owned a sus mtb so I'm used to the rigid feel of it. I think it's nice and direct in handling as I always found 'springs' pretty vague handling wise when jumping, hopping etc...

If you are used to a ful sus rig then it would be a wake up call & a half!?

Never got on with full sus but very accustomed to front forks for riding down hills. Without any sus, you're pretty close to a cross bike in many regards albeit with a slightly lower BB etc. Forks can be a pain to maintain properly plus good ones are expensive. What I really like about your bike is the simplicity and multi-functional qualities. It is nice to get rid of some of the parpaphernalia sometimes.

Posted on: 03 January 2014 by George J
Originally Posted by naim_nymph


there is not enuff room

is not enuff room there

not enuff room there is

enuff room there is not

room there is not enuff

 

i've tried it all ways, as the actress said to the bishop

and as i've already pointed out a great many times before, 

the bridge position is too low down dodgy 

 

Debs

 

Dear Debs,

 

I have exactly the same problem on the Carlton. The clearance on the back and the front is such that though I managed to fit the crud racer guards, about three winters ago, as soon as any grit appeared there was an audible scraping sound that could only be stopped by taking the guards off, washing them, and also washing the tyres. After about a week I gave up ...

 

I have got used to going a bit slower in the rain!

 

ATB from George

Posted on: 04 January 2014 by naim_nymph

Nice to see you back, George!

And Happy New Year! ...hope you had a nice forum sabbatical.

 

I’m getting by okay with my zip-tied rear mudguards to the underside of a pannier rack, but I’m thinking it may be far more practical to put together a winter bike that can cope easily with the local conditions I ride in.

And I’m thinking some kind of hybrid bike such as a ATB frame with plenty of room for full mudguards, but with dropped handlebars.

A couple of things I don’t like about ATB bikes are the flat bars that don’t allow one to adopt different riding positions so it gets uncomfortable and tiresome, and the longer crank length used on ATBs maybe a problem too, although ATB gearing itself is usually sensible for cruising around in winter, and these days it’s easy to change knobbly tires over to narrow lighter tarmac-tread jobbies. I’m not sure how the frame geometry would feel with the ride handling, or if there’s some unforeseen disadvantage - such as; would STI road levers on handlebars be compatible with ATB disc type brakes?

 

...just thinking aloud : )

 

Debs