Audio Format

Posted by: min66 on 22 November 2013

Just wondering what audio formats your using with your Naim products, as I'm new to Naim? Many thanks

Posted on: 22 November 2013 by hungryhalibut

WAV.

Posted on: 22 November 2013 by hafler3o

.WAV

Posted on: 22 November 2013 by hungryhalibut

I stand corrected!!

Posted on: 22 November 2013 by Scooot
Flac for me

Scott
Posted on: 22 November 2013 by David S Patterson
Ive ripped to itoons on aiff mediamonkey flac no compression.
Posted on: 22 November 2013 by Harry

WAV here. I think FLAC can tend to sound a bit flat through my system but it's a minor thing. Storage is cheap so I just avoid the doubt and concentrate on the musical enjoyment.

Posted on: 23 November 2013 by Pev

Music stored in FLAC and transcoded to WAV when played - best of both worlds!

Posted on: 23 November 2013 by badlyread

ALAC (more space). Music stored on an external drive via a Mac Mini. Music via uPnP, Spotify via Mini (wired). 

Posted on: 23 November 2013 by min66

Thanks for your reply's...I assume you mean WAV lossless, does WAV have tags? 

Posted on: 23 November 2013 by DrMark

I use FLAC on a Vortexbox appliance through a SBT and the SN's DAC.

Posted on: 23 November 2013 by min66

What do you think of Apple Lossless? ...as I have all my CD's saved on to my iPod in Apple Lossless? Now I have a SuperUniti will I need to save to a higher res? How do I save to  Naim DAC, what software do I need to save to it?

Posted on: 23 November 2013 by Popeye

Only FLAC for me

Posted on: 23 November 2013 by SeanC

.flac here, too.

Posted on: 23 November 2013 by badlyread
Originally Posted by min66:

What do you think of Apple Lossless? ...as I have all my CD's saved on to my iPod in Apple Lossless? Now I have a SuperUniti will I need to save to a higher res? How do I save to  Naim DAC, what software do I need to save to it?

If it is lossless it is at the same resolution as the source material. Assuming you have ripped from CD, you would need download material at a higher resolution in the format of your choice. 

 

Lossless is lossless. I don't have a problem with ALAC but some would say that some formats are better quality than others.

 

You cannot save to the DAC. It has no hard drive. It is a Digital to Analogue Converter.

 

Neil

Posted on: 23 November 2013 by dave4jazz
Originally Posted by min66:

What do you think of Apple Lossless? ...as I have all my CD's saved on to my iPod in Apple Lossless? Now I have a SuperUniti will I need to save to a higher res? How do I save to  Naim DAC, what software do I need to save to it?

Before I had a streamer the music on my iPod 160Gb Classic was ripped in 256 kbps AAC. When I started streaming, after a great deal of research, I decided FLAC would be the best (higher resolution) format. However, the downside was I was having to maintain two librarys.

The iPod 160Gb Classic can store something in the region of 500+ CDs in Apple Lossless (ALAC) so I decided that was the way to go and then I would only have to maintain one library. Also, listening on the iPod in ALAC is a definite bonus.

Before converting the whole library I compared tracks ripped in both FLAC and ALAC, using dbpoweramp, but I couldn't hear any appreciable difference between the formats.

So from my experience stick with your ALAC files. I'm sure they'll sound just great on your SuperUniti.

Hope this helps.

Note: I am assuming your files are stored on your PC or HD and you will have an ethernet connection (hard-wired (preferred) or Powerline) to the SuperUniti.

Posted on: 23 November 2013 by Louis-Andre
ALAC ( CD rips) and 320kbps (Spotify)
Posted on: 23 November 2013 by min66

Thanks Dave!

Posted on: 23 November 2013 by min66

 

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Note: I am assuming your files are stored on your PC or HD and you will have an ethernet connection (hard-wired (preferred) or Powerline) to the SuperUniti



 

The SuperUniti is attached via Ethernet to my broadband for the internet radio (hardwired) and all my ALAC files are on my iPod Touch which I plug into the USB port on the front of the SuperUniti...why? 

Posted on: 23 November 2013 by Phage

Flac for me. Wav's doesn't have any tag feature, which, for me, is the reason why I won't use them.

Posted on: 23 November 2013 by min66

I'm hoping someone can explain I looked at the properties of some of my tunes  saved in Apple Lossless and I noticed that the bit rates are different form tune to tune why is this...having said that some are above 1000 kbps !

Posted on: 23 November 2013 by osprey
Originally Posted by Phage:
Flac for me. Wav's doesn't have any tag feature, which, for me, is the reason why I won't use them.

At least dBpoweramp tags WAVs just fine. Nothing wrong with FLACs either though, I cannot hear any difference.
Posted on: 23 November 2013 by dave4jazz
Originally Posted by min66:

I'm hoping someone can explain I looked at the properties of some of my tunes  saved in Apple Lossless and I noticed that the bit rates are different form tune to tune why is this...having said that some are above 1000 kbps !

Apple Lossless (ALAC) uses variable bit rate (VBR) encoding hence the different bit rates. Variable rate encoding is inherent in lossless compression schemes such as ALAC and FLAC.

Posted on: 23 November 2013 by min66

Dave did you read my other post...I answered the question you asked me?

Posted on: 23 November 2013 by dave4jazz
Originally Posted by min66:
quote:
Note: I am assuming your files are stored on your PC or HD and you will have an ethernet connection (hard-wired (preferred) or Powerline) to the SuperUniti

The SuperUniti is attached via Ethernet to my broadband for the internet radio (hardwired) and all my ALAC files are on my iPod Touch which I plug into the USB port on the front of the SuperUniti...why? 

OK you are using your iPod Touch as the storage device and connecting it via USB to the SuperUniti.

Are your ALAC files also stored, or backed-up, on a PC or HD? For long term ease-of-use I would have thought it better to then stream your files from the PC or HD which would be permanently connected to your ethernet network. What I'm saying is you will then need an ethernet connection between the external storage device and the SuperUniti.

Posted on: 23 November 2013 by min66
Originally Posted by dave4jazz:
Originally Posted by min66:
quote:
Note: I am assuming your files are stored on your PC or HD and you will have an ethernet connection (hard-wired (preferred) or Powerline) to the SuperUniti

The SuperUniti is attached via Ethernet to my broadband for the internet radio (hardwired) and all my ALAC files are on my iPod Touch which I plug into the USB port on the front of the SuperUniti...why? 

OK you are using your iPod Touch as the storage device and connecting it via USB to the SuperUniti.

Are your ALAC files also stored, or backed-up, on a PC or HD? For long term ease-of-use I would have thought it better to then stream your files from the PC or HD which would be permanently connected to your ethernet network. What I'm saying is you will then need an ethernet connection between the external storage device and the SuperUniti.

I have two HD's on my PC, one for Windows & Apps C: drive and the other as a back up D: drive (not just for ALAC files though) and yes as you said I save all my CD's stored to the D: drive as a back up...so in affect I have a double back up, as all my ALAC's are also on my iPod too, do you think I should get a NAS as well or instead of my iPod? Hope that made sense