DLNA, Does Naim use this ?

The Naim streamer/players (ND5XS, NDX, NDS; Uniti line) use DLNA (a.k.a. in relevant part as UPnP).  The uServe and HDX function as UPnP servers.

Stop using wav, its a pain in the arse.

You need to switch on DLNA for each share on the ReadyNAS that you want the Qute to see.

IF it doesn't see the WAV files, then just convert them to FLAC using (? I use all music converter) and happy days again !

Of course  garyi  has a point, unless you have a Naim streamer, but I'm sure others on this forum would disagree.

PS - my Qute is switched off at the moment - but if you can't make yours work just reply & I will fire up my qute and see what it likes & what it doesn't like.

PPS - DLNA is like the UPNP standard - it delivers music (& video) to a UPNP client (your Qute), whereas CIFS and NFS are file systems that define how data is stored/accessed on the ReadyNAS and how it is presented to an operating system (like Windows).

The Windows operating system itself reads files formatted in CIFS, but it requires an additional program (the UPNP client program) to read the DLNA data stream from the ReadyNAS.  Your Qute has an operating system on board (probably Windows based) which is running a UPNP client program on top.

If that doesn't make sense it's because I made most of it up, so save up for a Naim server (U-serve) and make life a lot simpler. 

PPPS - of course the Naim servers use a Windows based operating system (which reads CIFS & other data files from the NAS) and also a UPNP client on top which reads the DLNA/UPNP data stream (from your NAS).

Which in my opinion, makes Naim streamers pretty qute !

(OK, I made that up too, but it answers your original question fairly well, doesn't it?)

Hi Paws

DLNA (aka UPnP) is a streaming protocol and is what Naim uses to send audio to its Naim Streamer products. Streaming means here that audio is broken into small packages and each small package is sent to the Naim Streamer which plays it even before it has received all packages of the complete song.

CIFS (aka SMB) and NFS are network protocols whereby a computer accesses the files directly, a bit like a network share from your ordinary Windows computer. CIFS is used for windows and NFS is used for Linux/Unix. 

Naim Server products use SMB to access files stored on NASes. Here the file is read completely onto  the Naim Server before it plays it or sends it onward via DLNA.

WAV files are just fine, they are the best sounding file format. It is just that some programs can't handle WAV-files very well because these programs are not built to the full WAV specifications, but only implement part of it.

Especially DLNA/UPnP programs on the NAS (like Twonky e.g.) are pretty bad in handling WAV-files as these UPnP Servers use tags in files to recognise artist, track number, song title etc. and being badly built they cannot always read tags in WAV-files.

The best UPnP server that will handle tags in WAV is Asset from the maker of dBPowerAmp.

Because all ofthese compatibility and stability issues with DLNA/UPnP (which is so called 'user-friendly', yeah sure :-( ), I will never use any of these streamer products.

I will only use gear that uses CIFS/NFS access to a NAS, and that means I have to 'build' my own, because the high-end brands don't make top quality products using these CIFS/NFS protocols.

Hope this clarifies it a bit

cheers

Aleg

I believe Aleg has explained correctly... DLNA is a consumer multimedia profile of a subset of the UPnP specification. (UPnP is used extensively elsewhere and your are probably not aware of it such as in broadband routers to open up ports for applications etc) It is the multimedia part of UPnP, ie DLNA that  Naim streamers use for the most part to drive its network streaming players (NDX, NDS etc)

CIFS and NFS are quite separate and these are network file protocols used by NAS's and the such like. It allows a device to see file storage across a network. 

If the DLNA UPnP server has no local files to stream or wanted to connect to additional storage it would most likely then be connected across your LAN  to a Network Attached Storage (NAS) device. This connection would typically use CIFS or NFS. But the UPnP server would talk the DLNA UPnP protocol to your Naim streamer network player. It probably sounds more complicated than it is.

Simon