BT Hub 5 and IP address changing

Thanks Gary! It's all very confusing..... I really must write down how I set the system up rather than relying on memory.

This is how I do it with my HH3's control panel. I'm not saying in it's the only way you can do it but it's worked fine so far. No problems in 2.5 years.

It certainly is a confusing game the old home network but there are a few basic ruls which should set you straight.

My opinion is and always has been you want a decent home router. Think of it as the old cable adage, 10% of the price of a piece of your uniti on the router. £200 for excellent home routers should not even be a consideration if you have spent thousands on one streamer, stop relying on bloody homehubs and superturds.

Fixing IPs is straight forward to do but needs a bit of experience, the issue being if you balls it up you can sometimes be a bit boned until you have reset the device or blagged your way back in, and its quite simply a case of getting one number wrong for it all to go wrong.

From that perspective assigning IPs from the router is far easier, but this does not detract from having a bloody good router to start with.

My personal experience is apple routers do not fit in the bloody good category

I started installing the EA6900 last night.  My initial impressions:

1. Certainly not as plug-and-play as Apple products.  It was supplied with a cd, but (a) few laptops even have cd drives today, including mine, and (b) the software is not compatible with OS X 10.9 anyway.

2.  Turning off DHCP was not trivial.  I bricked it once and had to use the reset button.  With DHCP off, many of the "Smart Wi-Fi" features are disabled.  That's a shame.  I guess I could off DHCP on my isp's modem/router and re-do all of my fixed IP addresses.  Interestingly, the Linksys likes to use the 10.x.x.x ranges, not the 192.168.x.x ranges.  I guess it's not only Apple that does the former.

3.  The setup of the range extender requires the use of a cd that is not compatible with OS X 10.9  There is a work-around, but I did not work on it last night as I don't own the required Thunderbolt to Ethernet adaptor for my Macbook.

4.  This may be not viable for me in the end, as my Nest thermostats are not getting onto the network.  It seems that Nests are somewhat picky, and are not compatible with certain wireless routers.  This one is not specifically mentioned, but it may be the issue.  If it is, I'll have to return it. 

And yes, it all came in a big Belkin box!

Thanks for everyones help with my issue. I'm a bit stuck though as I can't access the Netgear NAS as its on the 192.168.0.4, when the BT router is on 192.168.1.x and you can't get the BTH5 to use 192.168.0.x addresses. I also can't direct connect to the NAS. I guess I would need to buy a new router that can address the 192.168.0.x which is really annoying

That doesn't sound right to me.  The router should assign an IP address to the nas.  IF the nas has been set to expect a fixed IP address, there should be a way to do a 'factory settings restore' to clear that and allow your home router to assign it an IP address.  Have you looked online for a way to reset the nas?  There is no way that the nas, out of the box, is looking for any specific ip address.  You do not need to shop for a new router; you need to reset the nas.

Wazza, there is defo a netgear application you download to your computer and it will discover the nas, search it on the internet its called raidiator or radar somthing like that.

Bart, belkin are not famed for their routers.

But why are you turning off all its features anyhow? Surely it wants to be the main router in the network?

Get an Asus AC68u or RTn66u.

I suggest anyone looking at a new router check out smallnetbuilder website.

Gary yes, the next step would have been to turn off DHCP in the modem/router from my ISP, instead of in the Linksys.  That really is how it's designed to work. 

I ended up RMA'ing the lot.  It's not compatible with my Nest thermostats, which is a non-starter.  For some reason, some routers don't work with Nest.

Oh I got all excited by the nest products but not available in the uk, boo.

I see no reason why a router should not be compatible with anything, just sounds like UPNP was not switched on.

I see no reason as well, but something is up.  There is a short list of routers and firmware on the Nest site that are known not to be compatible.  This one needs to be added to that list.  Some provide a connection, but cause erroneous behaviour from the Nest.  It sounds like a Nest flaw, but in any event I like being able to see that my kids turned the heat up to 80 F. and being able to turn it back down from my office   It's actually a great product. 

There is one by OWL in th euk, which does a similar thing but I want something more fundamental, the owl one only allows temperature control where as I want to be able to turn on/off the heat or water heating.

Ideally I want room by room temp control, but it gets rather expensive!

The OWL product is excellent, I put one in last year, just before Winter, been 100% reliable so far and I like the 'intelligence' it adds, as it is aware if the outside temperature and varies the start and finish times accordingly.

Off topic but seem worth responding.

Richard

I did not know it monitored outside temp?

I have the owl electric monitor, which is scary the amount we use!

It uses Internet data (which seems accurate). 

When you program it you set a target time for when you want it to be at that temperature and the system calculates using the efficiency value entered for the house, current temperature and outside temperature to establish when to switch the heating on, it does similar in 'cool down mode'.  I find that typically the heating comes on between 10 mins and an hour of the target time, depending on how cold the house is.

Richard