Asset and UQ2

Posted by: JSH on 27 December 2013

Having listened to everyone here I decided to try Asset as my UPnP server on a WD MyBook live.  The Twonky on the WD is OK but a bit slow

 

Asset seems fine BUT.....

 

I have my folders organized like this

"Classical" > "A - D" > "Adams" > "Violin Concerto" etc etc

"Bob Dylan - Modern times"

 

The reason is most of my stuff is classical and folders is the easiest way to find different versions of Beethoven's 5th for example

 

Unfortunately, Asset does not want to see anything after a space.  So I get Bob Dylan repeated 5 times over and only when I go into the folder do I find whether it's love and theft or Modern Times

 

Short of renaming all my folder  - no chance - is there any way of getting Asset to read beyond the space

Posted on: 27 December 2013 by JSH

PS.

 

Is there an alternative to Asset and Twonky?

Posted on: 27 December 2013 by Adrian F.

In this thread, several alternatives are mentioned. Depends on the OS of you computer..

https://forums.naimaudio.com/to...77#32118649554897777

Posted on: 27 December 2013 by JSH

Thanks.  I'll have a look

 

Windows 7-64

Posted on: 27 December 2013 by Adrian F.

Or here too:

https://forums.naimaudio.com/topic/qnap-nas-drive

Posted on: 27 December 2013 by JSH

Thanks

Tried Serviio and was not keen.  Trying Minim at the moment.  Looks good at first blush

 

But can anyone answer the Asset question?  ie how to get it to read beyond a space

Posted on: 27 December 2013 by Simon-in-Suffolk

hmm, JSH Asset certainly has no issues with spaces in file names or directories. Additionally the directory structure of your media is for the most part  irrelevant to Asset.

However the Asset database is entirely generated from the media file metadata.

So perhaps some examples of how you have set your metadata with example values  for your albums, compilation albums etc might give some insight as to why you have issues..

 

key metadata:

 

Album 

Composer

Artist

Track

Compilation

 

Simon

 

Posted on: 27 December 2013 by JSH

Hi Simon

 

My music -predominately Classical - is organized into Folders.  In tree style it goes like this:-

 

A - D, E - G, etc

 Within A - D, I have files for, say,  BACH, BEETHOVEN etc and within these

   BRANDENBURG CONCERTOS, PIANO CONCERTOS

    and within these, Hesperion, Barneboim etc ie at "album" level in pop terms

The individual movements (or songs as I must learn to call them, Apple style) are below that with thier title and filenames the same - or else there are too many Adagios, Allegros and the rest

For those composers where I've only got a disc or two, within A - D I might have

Agrell - Concertos for Flute

 

Now these show up Ok in Twonky and in Minim but not in Asset.  In Asset, A - D shows as A or to use a Pop example Bob Dylan - Love and Theft shows as Bob Dylan, but then so does Bob Dylan - Modern Times.

Looking at it, the issue may not be spaces but may be the dash, but that seems odd

 

Any help would be appreciated but if Asset is a non starter for me then it may have to be the painfully slow Twonky or perhaps Minim

 

many thanks

 

JSH

 

 

Posted on: 27 December 2013 by JSH

A PS

I remaned a folder from "Adrian Boult - By the banks of the Green Willow" to "Adrian Boult-By the banks of the Green Willow" and its display has changed from "Adrian Boult" to "Adrian Boult-By the banks of the Green Willow".  So it's the spaces it doesn't seem to like

Posted on: 27 December 2013 by Simon-in-Suffolk

Hi, thanks, yes I understand how your structure your folders, but Asset ignores all this - and works on the metadata within the files themselves. You could have one large flat directory and Asset wouldn't care - it would still structure the database on the metadata within the files themselves. Therefore any descriptions or names you are seeing are coming from the metadata in the files - so I would check that is correct.

 

Now Asset can go and navigate to a particular folder in one of its UPnP directories avoiding its database - but it is embedded away as one of the sub directory options - and I wouldn't recommend it as a primary way of selecting content using Asset.

 

I am not aware of any UPnP server that uses a directory structure of the media files themselves to structure its database as a primary way of doing so - but there might be one out there - but most I have come across use the metadata tags to structure your media database.

 

You might want to define the metadata based on your old directory structures - and that way UPnP servers can structure their databases in a similar way.

 

 

Posted on: 27 December 2013 by JSH

Simon

 

Many thanks.  I need to sit down and think some more about this and looking into the meta data as you suggest. 

But it is getting weirder!

If I use the UPnP app on my Android phone, everything shows up perfectly, which suggests an issue with n-Stream or Apple perhaps? 

The sooner the Namote app is integrated and I can use my Galaxy the better!

 

JSH

Posted on: 28 December 2013 by DF50

I have little issue with Asset also!

 

I am new to this so please bare with me! I have Asset on a Mac Mini attached, wired, to switch, along with QNap NAS and a Naim ND5XS - in that switch is an Airport Express - control point in n-Stream app! Oh, all file are AIFF...

All working - but small issue with some albums showing up in Artist Album as separate albums (split up) it looks like it is looking at them as compilations! e.g Oscar Peterson Night Train, slit up looks like a couple of Them have Oscar With trio and the rest no trio and album is split up as 2 albums. That is just one example, there are more! Some of them with guest artist on the albums, maybe as many as four or five guests, and them tracks are split up into separate albums of the same title.

I guess it treats them as compilation - if so, does anyone know of a switch in asset to deal with this, or various artist/compilations? Or do I need a different control point maybe? 

My folder structure is simple on NAS is simple - Shared folder called music > Artist > Artist album!

Thanks,

Dave

Posted on: 28 December 2013 by Simon-in-Suffolk

Dave - yes it sounds like the compilation flag is not correctly set in the metadata. This is not unusual for some of the online metadata resources.  Use a metadata editor and ensure the tracks of your compilation have the compilation flag set. Asset (and most other UPnP DLNA servers) will then treat the compilation tracks as belonging to a single album.

Simon

 

Posted on: 28 December 2013 by DF50

Thanks Simon!  Do you know of a decent tag editor that will work for AIFF file?

 

Dave.

Posted on: 28 December 2013 by Simon-in-Suffolk

I use dBpoweramp on Windows. But there are many many apps that will do this on both OSX and Windows - just use Google to explore.

Simon

 

Posted on: 28 December 2013 by DF50

Thank again Simon - will look around!

Dave.

Posted on: 29 December 2013 by DF50

Thanks, not using iTunes unfortunately!  I found id3 editor, taking for test drive!