Upgrade/crossgrade

Posted by: Dan43 on 16 January 2014

Just throwing this out there. Have NAP100, DAC-V1, UnitiServe, PMC DB1i. Looking to upgrade and the following is in play, all on home demo and will take a little while, but I have the time luckily :

1.Ovator S400 currently on home demo, NDS/555PS next week home demo, Supernait 2 and HiCap DR.

2.Options on B&W CM10, KEF R900, PMC Twenty 23 & 24 to reference against the 400s.

3.Devialet 110/170 home demo with above speaker selection/options being fed by the US via SPDIF.

 

The cost to go the NDS route in considerable, the Devialet isn't so much.

 

It will be interesting to evaluate the cost to quality of these two approaches, I am NAIM at the moment but the expense required to go the step up is quite a commitment, or perhaps at the end of these tests I just stay as I am?

Dan43

Posted on: 15 February 2014 by Dan43
Originally Posted by rjb:
Originally Posted by Dan43:
Originally Posted by rjb:

Dan43, how is the audition going? I am interested in your feedback about the NDS/555PS/SN2 and how it compares with the D240.

 

Hi rjb,

 

In the end, after extensive testing, I have finally decided on the NDS/555DR/SN2 combo being served by US SSD, placing orders in the next few weeks,

 

The D240 has a very clean delivery, warmer,and amazing high frequency response (like hearing electrostatics) but still delivered a very slight bass bias, like a very tiny sub. 

 

The NDS/555 came into its own once I hooked up the SN2, the balance, staging everything just glued together beautifully. The S400 then sounded tremendous, balanced, everything came alive and all kit working as one, the music just came into the room, I couldn't get the D240 to do this. To be fair mind the S400 are probably not the best speakers for the D240 and everything being all NAIM I guess we would expect that synergy, but boy once that SN2 connected all the dots that sold it for me.

 

 

I preferred NAIMs more honest slightly dryer, truer, delivery compared to the warmer and cleaner D240 and until the SN2 was plugged in it was a close call. I felt the D240 was slightly forcing the issue while the NAIM felt just right to my ears.

 

D240 via its AIR system was impressive, but its lack of uPnP was a small issue (US was connected by digital BNC-RCA so no issue there serving to the D240), with the NAIM I now have both N-Stream and N-Serve working, but I have to concede I did already own the US SSD.

 

In summary I just preferred the NAIM sound, and then the SN2 just sealed it for me. If I could get the D240 to replicate the staging of the NAIM, the feeling of the music being in the room, I would e-consider as the one box approach is leaner, maybe when they create their next systems?

 

Hope that all helps,

Regards

Dan

 

 

Hello Dan,

 

thank you for your feedback, it is much appreciated. I am glad you have found the right system. I am sure the NDS/555PS/SN2 is amazing - it must be the best 3 box system from Naim. I regret I never had a chance to listen to one in a home demo. It is difficult to organize this where I live and also I buy second hand, hence it won't be fair to ask a dealer for a demo.

 

How are you finding the Naim system with lesser recordings? The experience I had with my previous system (NDX/DAC/555PS into SN/HicapDR) was that the good recordings were to die for, however bad were just bad, really bad. Also, what about listening at low volumes in general? 

 

Anyway, thank you again and enjoy the music - there is so much to explore. 

 

Cheers,

rjb

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi rjb,

 

The demo sets have gone back and a new order placed, gone the whole hog with Fraim, Hi-Line Power-Line. For the poorer recordings, especially loudness examples (which a lot of Rock/Metal seems to have suffered from) I find that it can dig deeper into the music and bring more out of the tracks but it does not like the hard clipping and the loudness when mixed/mastered in, but what can you do it just shows it for what it is, poor. But by digging out more from the source it covers over those cracks, so I find it much more pleasant and revealing on poor recordings, but not quite a slam dunk.

On good recordings yes it is a beauty.

Kit due in a couple of weeks, all new, so will be going through a run-in period also.

Cheers

Dan

 

Posted on: 15 February 2014 by Dan43
Originally Posted by Zeny:
Sorry to spread upgraditis but once you add a HCDR to the SN2 you wont want to unplug it.

I know once you get the bug I find, like bug bites, I have more itches to scratch and new ones keep appearing from nowhere. I already know that once we install everything I will need a few more items to finish the build, like longer Cat7, new NACA5, extra Fraim shelf, it is inevitable, but this is part of the fun, is it not :-)