Accurate Rip Database

Posted by: Sloop John B on 16 January 2014

Many of the albums I am currently ripping have between 1 - 40 "hits" in the accurate rip database using dBpoweramp. I've just got a "200" for ZZ Top's Greatest Hits.

 

What's your highest?

 

(or is ripping my collection giving me OCD!)

 

 

 

Posted on: 16 January 2014 by Aleg
Originally Posted by Sloop John B:

Many of the albums I am currently ripping have between 1 - 40 "hits" in the accurate rip database using dBpoweramp. I've just got a "200" for ZZ Top's Greatest Hits.

 

What's your highest?

 

(or is ripping my collection giving me OCD!)

 

 

 

Yes :-)

 

i only look if I'm above half of the reported total rips.

I can't know what others did when they ripped and populated Accurip.

Posted on: 21 January 2014 by Sloop John B

Dum de Dum, Rip van Rip........... just had one in accurate rip but with no metadata, which is strange, usually happens the other way around.

 

Although I can see the benefits as n-stream and iPeng show some much more music and so become much more useful, this ripping is a major pain, wish I could outsource it.

 

 

SJB

Posted on: 21 January 2014 by Sloop John B

another 50 down, only 1050 to go!

 

SJB

Posted on: 21 January 2014 by TommayCat
Originally Posted by Sloop John B:

another 50 down, only 1050 to go!

 

SJB

My main concern is what will I do when I've done the lot!  I worry I'll end up in charity shops buying old Donny Osmond CDs just to get my ripping fix...

Posted on: 21 January 2014 by Sorren
Originally Posted by Sloop John B:

Although I can see the benefits as n-stream and iPeng show some much more music and so become much more useful, this ripping is a major pain, wish I could outsource it.

 

SJB

Hi SJB

 

Hope this isn't breaking any forum rules.

 

If I remember correctly there is a firm who will rip them for you. I don't remember many of the details but if you look on the Peter Tyson site for Linn DSM devices it's part of the package and you can find the company details from there.

 

Hope this helps.

Posted on: 22 January 2014 by Sloop John B
Originally Posted by Sorren:
Originally Posted by Sloop John B:

Although I can see the benefits as n-stream and iPeng show some much more music and so become much more useful, this ripping is a major pain, wish I could outsource it.

 

SJB

Hi SJB

 

Hope this isn't breaking any forum rules.

 

If I remember correctly there is a firm who will rip them for you. I don't remember many of the details but if you look on the Peter Tyson site for Linn DSM devices it's part of the package and you can find the company details from there.

 

Hope this helps.

It was half in jest I suggested outsourcing. I make things harder for myself by insisting that compilations get metadata put in for year for each of the tracks. One of the features I like is the ability to do a random collection of a years music, fascinating to hear say in 1959 the difference in pop, blues and jazz and rock n roll. 

 

My my thread is in part a reaction to posts that blithely say "I ripped 1000 CDs" and make it seem like they may have done it in an afternoon! 

 

 

SJB

Posted on: 24 January 2014 by Sloop John B

I'm noticing that I have quite a few Cds which dBpoweramp has problems with (ie non secure rips).

On most occasions a clean with ROR and my Selvyt cloth do the trick. What's unusual is that you cannot tell by looking which CDs are (dirty) and need cleaning.

Then I have some that my PC can't see at all, or else trys to re-rip 90% of the frames. Again in most cases using the 2nd PC gives an accurate rip.

Then there is the few remaining that don't respond to any of the above - Bang by World Party being a culprit as the moment, tracks 1-6 accurate and the remainder inaccurate after several sweeps with absolutely no obvious visual reason for this.

 

Next up is the first CD I bought in 1990 - DSOTM.

 

 

SJB

 

Posted on: 24 January 2014 by TommayCat

Similar experience here. Some are obviously in need of a gentle clean. Others don't look dirty but will rip after a wipe.  I am also occasionally caught out by file names too long to write, but the error log is not explicit about this.  I have a few CDs that i cannot get all the tracks to rip.  I have found that some enhanced CDs, or those with hidden tracks can also be problematic

 

SJB, you made an earlier observation of a high score of 200 in AccurateRip.  I think it must be a maximum value as DSOTM, Led Zep IV and a few more old chestnuts have all come in at 200.

Posted on: 24 January 2014 by Sloop John B

UPDATE: Spoke too soon, the 2nd PC trick worked for World party, much to my surprise.

 

last one of 60 for this today...

 

 

 

 

SJB

 

 

Posted on: 24 January 2014 by fatcat

I quite often get inaccurate rips. But this only happens to tracks that have a lot of hits, say approx 100.

 

Sometimes I rip an album, all the tracks with a low number hits are accurate, all the tracks with high number of hits are inaccurate. Happens a lot, but can't figure why.

Posted on: 24 January 2014 by TommayCat

Some of my older CDs seem to have little blurred patches, almost as if some sort of creeping degradation is taken place.  Can't clean it off either.  Maybe we are all ripping our precious music just in time? 

Posted on: 24 January 2014 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by TommayCat:

Some of my older CDs seem to have little blurred patches, almost as if some sort of creeping degradation is taken place.  Can't clean it off either.  Maybe we are all ripping our precious music just in time? 

CD rot is a well-documented phenomenon. Perhaps all CDs have a finite life. But the information can live forever provided we keep up with back-ups and format-shifting as required by new technology.

Posted on: 25 January 2014 by Jimbobsquarepants

What the hell are you all talking about?

 

Posted on: 25 January 2014 by TommayCat
Originally Posted by Jimbobsquarepants:
What the hell are you all talking about?

"Disc rot is a phrase describing the tendency of CD or DVD or other optical discs to become unreadable due to physical or chemical deterioration. The causes of this effect vary from oxidation of the reflective layer, to physical scuffing and abrasion of disc surfaces or edges, including visible scratches, to other kinds of reactions with contaminants, to ultra-violet light damage and de-bonding of the adhesive used to adhere the layers of the disc together."

 

On CDs, the rot becomes visually noticeable in two ways:

  1. When the CD is held up to a strong light, light shines through several pin-prick-sized holes.
  2. Discoloration of the disc, which looks like a coffee stain on the disc (CD bronzing)

In audio CDs, the rot leads to scrambled or skipped audio or even the inability to play a track.

(source: 'BBC: Is music safe on compact disc?')

 

Copy the data to a future-proof file format and your data will live on...

Posted on: 28 January 2014 by Sloop John B

Well the youngest Sloop was "off sick" today which should have been her work experience day in Transition year.
Spotting an opening I offered 10c per CD to which she agreed.
I came home this evening being told how boring it was ripping (or rendering as she first called it).
I told her about Murfie and a post by someone who "ripped" for them on one of the fora. So she's now found another job she doesn't want to do!
Her brother accusing me of the worst excesses of capitalism succeeded in getting the cost per CD up to 25c. So about £20 for 90 CDs (hand-picked not to give too much erroneous meta-data).

I have to admit that this whole process shows up the possible use of the UServe. A fellow traveller here simply ripped an amount of CDs each evening while listening to his trusty CDP. He has a similar amount of CDs and seemed to find the process relatively painless. Painless I'm not finding it as I'm beside a PC as I rip.

gettin' there, slooowly............


SJB

 

Posted on: 28 January 2014 by David O'Higgins

Yes, Userve is responsible for the destruction of a lot of low paid employment opportunity. Another black mark!!

Posted on: 29 January 2014 by TommayCat

I cannot get all the tracks on a few CDs to rip, which can be deeply frustrating if it is a final chorus or movement from a symphony etc. I haven't yet had the patience or time to try DBPoweramp's various intensive ripping modes to see if illusive or damaged tracks can be rescued.  

 

Ideally I would put out a request to the high-res ripping community for the missing track.  But where do I stand legally? I own the CD, so am only replacing what I already own if the CD technology hadn't failed.

Posted on: 30 January 2014 by Sloop John B
Originally Posted by TommayCat:

I cannot get all the tracks on a few CDs to rip, which can be deeply frustrating if it is a final chorus or movement from a symphony etc. I haven't yet had the patience or time to try DBPoweramp's various intensive ripping modes to see if illusive or damaged tracks can be rescued.  

 

Ideally I would put out a request to the high-res ripping community for the missing track.  But where do I stand legally? I own the CD, so am only replacing what I already own if the CD technology hadn't failed.

I can't see any problem with that.

 

if you own a CD you are entitled to own a rip of that CD for personal use, I can't imagine how you obtain  the rip has any relevance on your right to own it. 

Posted on: 30 January 2014 by Sorren
Originally Posted by Sloop John B:
Originally Posted by TommayCat:

I cannot get all the tracks on a few CDs to rip, which can be deeply frustrating if it is a final chorus or movement from a symphony etc. I haven't yet had the patience or time to try DBPoweramp's various intensive ripping modes to see if illusive or damaged tracks can be rescued.  

 

Ideally I would put out a request to the high-res ripping community for the missing track.  But where do I stand legally? I own the CD, so am only replacing what I already own if the CD technology hadn't failed.

I can't see any problem with that.

 

if you own a CD you are entitled to own a rip of that CD for personal use, I can't imagine how you obtain  the rip has any relevance on your right to own it. 

I agree. As long as you own the CD you should be OK. Unless there's some kind of metadata tag which states otherwise how would they know you hadn't ripped it yourself anyway?

Posted on: 06 February 2014 by Sloop John B

no matter what i do Polly Jean Harvey's "Rid of Me" will not rip.

dBpoweramp trys to re-rip 1150 frames on average per song!

 

So I decided to put it in my charity shop bundle (it still plays but now I know the crap sound is due to error- correction).

 

decided to look on Amazon for a replacement.

 

interesting pricing CD vs MP3!

 

 

 

SJB

 

 

Posted on: 06 February 2014 by hungryhalibut

I've ripped Rid of Me quite happily. Yet Nick Cave's Dig, Lazarus, Dig won't play ball. If the pj album were not buried under the  stairs I'd send it to you.

Posted on: 06 February 2014 by Maxi Me

Sloop

 

I home demo'd a UnitiServe and sent it straight back to the dealer. The control over metadata as you rip is non-existent and unreadable by anything else. dbPoweramp coped with all my collection. Still a complete pain in the a¤¤e though. 

 

All done now and I love streaming. 

 

Maxi Me

Posted on: 06 February 2014 by TommayCat

Monteverdi's Vespers 1610 (2 CD boxed set: Andrew Parrott, Taverner Consort et al) tracks 13-16 won't rip.  Now that's a poo!

Posted on: 28 February 2014 by Sloop John B

The learning curve continues, why didn't I buy these sooner?

 

 

 

the amount of re-ripping of individual frames I have with CD's that come in replica sleeves or some other form that has them in contact with cardboard.

 

having desperate trouble with Charles Mingus at the moment, will have to try the fall back of the second PC or else he joins Polly Jean!

 

 

SJB

Posted on: 10 May 2014 by Sloop John B

I am reaching the end of this long long long process as I have now reached my "singles drawer" and my Volume and Fabric compilations.

 

Looking forward to perusing the New Music section later as I have not listened to a lot of these singles since the golden age of CD (1991-1996).

 

 

SJB