Unitiqute2 Time Capsule wireless connection problem
Posted by: bercan on 26 February 2014
Dear all, I am new to Naim community. I recently bought a Naim Unitiqute 2, but was not able to connect it to time capsule (no problem while connecting it to other wireless device). i write wireless password, wait about 20 seconds, then it says not connected. I tried to change wireless settings of time caosule from g to n, etc. but it still does not accept the password. What would be the problem? thanks alot.
I hesitate to recommend this, but try disabling wireless security on the TimeCapsule. If the UQ2 connects without an issue, then turn wireless security back on (WPA/WPA2 combo recommended) and reset your Wi-Fi password to a numeric value such as 011441722332266 or something along those lines.
Even if you are able to connect to the Time Capsule, you will have to get another router. The built in routing features are not suitable for streaming. Time Capsule is a back up device, use it for that purpose and get a proper router for your network.
Even if you are able to connect to the Time Capsule, you will have to get another router. The built in routing features are not suitable for streaming. Time Capsule is a back up device, use it for that purpose and get a proper router for your network.
It is my understanding (as an owner of one) that a Time Capsule is essentially an Airport Extreme with a hard drive and backup software 'bolted on.' A Time Capsule should do everything an Airport Extreme does.
And depending on your experience and religion, the Airport Extreme is an ok or good or decent or perfectly fine or totally rubbish router. I find it perfectly fine for router duties in my home, with the proviso that I do not wirelessly stream to my NDS or Qute2.
Sorry Bart, not a question of religion:
It is from CNET review of the Time Capsule::
''The bad: A Wi-Fi speed boost and a new design are the only real improvements versus the previous model. Not the best option if you're looking for advanced features, household media streaming, and non-Mac options.
The bottom line: As long as you don't need expert-level features, the 2013 AirPort Time Capsule is an excellent backup/file server for Apple fans -- especially for those with 802.11ac-enabled Macs.''
The on board router does not have the same feature as the AP Extreme, even if it is based on the same hardware. I have seen many cases where an AP Extreme has solved all issues a Time Capsule was doing.
Bercan, strange, I have a new Apple Time Capsule 2TB and it works perfectly with my NDX as a router but on a wired connection. I have no troubles with anything else connecting to it wirelessly.. In fact really impressed how rock solid it is with fantastic range. I have my Time Capsule performing NAT for about 25 devices, and the CPU load is barely above tick over.
i set the Time Capsule for 803.11b/g/n on 2.4 GHz and set a separate SSID for 803.11ac on 5Ghz for devices that can take advantage of the new standard.
Have you tried a wired connection to see if that work ok?
BTW the Time Capsule is a fantastic broadband router and works very well with a PPPoE modem. It's reliable, fast and easy to use. It has the advantage that you can set up a very effective Apple Wifi repeater network with other Airport Expresses, and is a doddle to setup and manage.
i hope you get to the bottom of the wifi issue... It might be worth contacting Naim support. There could always be a potential issue with the WPA encryption key management code in certain scenarios on the Unitiqute. Which is my suspicion given it disconnects after 20 seconds.
Also you can download the TimeCapsule logs, and see if there is anything suspicious... they are very verbose but detailed.
Simon
The hardware and software stacks are the same, Manu - and this is the case for both the older (flat) 802.11n models as well the the newest vertical 802.11ac models. I use A1354, which is a 3x3 MIMO unit (Extreme), as well as A1355 (Time Capsule), without problems.
These devices run VXworks as the underlying RTOS and are certainly more-than-capable enough of handling UPnP / DLNA audio chores.
These work well enough to stream 96 kHz / 24-bit audio to 802.11n-based AirPort Express devices used as wireless network extenders (which provide better wireless reception than that of the older Uniti streaming boards).
Another suggestion might be to directly connect the UQ2 (via Ethernet) to the router (clearly better) to determine if there may be something else amiss, with respect to network congestion, or, a potential problem with the UQ2 networking module itself.
Dear all, thanks a lot for your valuable replies. I tried to remove wireless password, but still same problem. Let me remind that i have no problem with another wifi device (time capsule is connected to it by the way)
I will try to connect it via ethernet cable at the weekend (difficult set up to change) and will update you with the result.
Time capsule (old, flat version) is quite reliable device as a network hard disk and wifi streamer by the way. so far, i did not have any problem with any device.
A Time Capsule will not reliably connect wirelessly to a Naim streamer, you have to use an AirPort Express to connect to the Ethernet port, do we all agree on that? On the other way an AP Extreme will do the job perfectly...with a very good coverage...
If you add a DHCP address reservation (which works for both the wired and wireless "connections") using the MAC address of the Uniti, it should work perfectly fine. Listening to Folk Radio UK downstairs on 2.4 GHz network, wirelessly, on NaimUniti without any problems; works fine when UPnP streaming as well (to 48 kHz / 24-bit). No AirPort Express in use; router software up-to-date.
I'm taking a poll . . .
I have two options -- let my broadband supplier's (Verizon FiOS) modem/router run DHCP, and turn that off in the Time Capsule (btw it's the new 'tall' ac model), or let the Time Capsule run DHCP and turn that off in the broadband supplier's device.
Currently I have DHCP off in the Time Capsule.
And if I let the Time Capsule handle this, am I forced to use their 10.x.x.x addresses versus the 192.168.x.x addresses I'm using now? And does it matter?
Definitely NOT the Verizon FIOS router. I recommend 172.16.x.x addresses on Apple routers, as this will always work on any WAN using 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x, set under the Network tab.
I definitely recommend setting the DHCP range to a smaller pool of addresses, say, x.x.x.100-199, using DHCP reservations (by MAC address) to insure reasonably quick addressing, once a device is added to the network.
Simon's remarks regarding the log entries is quite relevant, especially as you can see rather quickly if it takes an inordinate amount of time to join the network - also useful if you DO use an external DHCP server.
If you have an iPad, I highly recommend Fing, by the way, for network scanning by MAC address / IPv4 address.
Thanks for both suggestions David. I'll try not to cock it up too much!
I had the new apple time capsule. It was appalling and I returned it within 4 days for a full refund.
I have enjoyed network throughput speeds of around 60MB/s down 30MB/s up to my servers with Asus routers but that time capsule halved the speeds and according to the interwebs I am not alone.
Very basic set up which is handy if you want basics, but anything even a bit beyond is not possible. Airport extreme/time capsule does not represent particularly good value for money.
Just some points here that need tidying up... The private address ranges of class a, 10.x.x.x, class b 172.16.x.x and class c 192.168.x.x matter not the slightest on your home LAN. They actually determine your maximum subnet size, but typically you will run a subnet address of 24 bits (subnet mask 255.255.255.0) for normal home use if you have 254 devices or less on your LAN. If you have more devices then you must either use a class b or class a network and set the subnet mask appropriately. The only proviso as that you do not mix class and network address on your LAN subnet.(ie have 10.x.x.x and 192.168.x.x on the LAN)
As far as WAN usage, if private addressing, such as a commercial private network, it matters not. If you are referring to the public internet then this is also irrelevant as the internet using completely different public addresses that are distinct and do not overlap at all with private addresses (otherwise the internet would instantly grind to a halt globally).
So in short use what ever LAN private address class you wish if you have 254 or less devices on your LAN or let your DHCP server and broadband router default it.
Simon


David, thanks for the hint on Fing, useful to have this tool on the IPad as well.
Manu, I have to say, the latest Time Capsule was totally plug and play... It just worked out of the box for Apple and UPnP streaming both wirelessly and fixed wire. There was no setup other than assigning my WPA password and setting up the username password for my broadband PPPoE modem. I configured my TimeCapsule to use a seperate 803.11ac SSID and reserve IP addresses, as well as some time restrictions... But that was optional.
I design systems using 'proper' routers for a living, and have several Cisco routers at SinS towers. I can see nothing wrong with the Apple device (apart from not being able to define a static route on the PPPoE interface - but a minor gripe) , and impressed at its simplicity and effectiveness for home use.
Simon
Even if you are able to connect to the Time Capsule, you will have to get another router. The built in routing features are not suitable for streaming. Time Capsule is a back up device, use it for that purpose and get a proper router for your network.
Nonsense. My ATC works flawlesly as the router and I even store my iTunes and iPhoto libraries on it. 300mbps speed on 5MHz channel is totally sufficient for simultaneous video streaming to two laptops and iRadio to Uniti.
Make sure your modem's routing feature is switched off and leave routing to the ATC only.
Also make sure your ATC is set up correctly: in router mode and with password for the device and not for the hard drive (in case of later you will not be able to access ATC from Qute).
Make sure there are no special characters in your wifi password. And no spaces. I have had that problem before connecting a Qute to an Airport Extreme.
I even tried to remove wireless password. But still have the same result. it says after 20 seconds, it is not able to connect. This weekend i will try to connect it with a wire, and let you know.
Even if you are able to connect to the Time Capsule, you will have to get another router. The built in routing features are not suitable for streaming. Time Capsule is a back up device, use it for that purpose and get a proper router for your network.
Nonsense. My ATC works flawlesly as the router and I even store my iTunes and iPhoto libraries on it. 300mbps speed on 5MHz channel is totally sufficient for simultaneous video streaming to two laptops and iRadio to Uniti.
Make sure your modem's routing feature is switched off and leave routing to the ATC only.
Also make sure your ATC is set up correctly: in router mode and with password for the device and not for the hard drive (in case of later you will not be able to access ATC from Qute).
Very good point about the sharepoint password on the Time CapsuleāI found this out the hard way.
In the days when I'd visit retailers with a UnitiServe / UnitiQute combination, I simply took a Time Capsule, UnitiServe SSD, Qute, iPad and a few runs of Ethernet cabling. The Time Capsule served as the store for the UnitiServe (the Time Capsule products used a WD Green drive at the time, though you could expand this by replacing this with a properly-partitioned, larger drive), and you could comfortably fit it into a backpack with a laptop and a few cables (unlike a NAS) for airplane travel.
I had replaced the stock drive with a larger WD Green 2TB drive and over-thought the password / share relationship between the UnitiServe and the Time Capsule. I thought that I had tested the setup* before leaving to visit the next retailer, but couldn't get it to work (I had copied the music back onto the drive, etc.).
Delete share password, on a whim? Everything worked flawlessly, but it was an exposed, rather teachable moment.
* - Moral of the story: never get into a car without testing your kit.
Maybe time for a try of the latest version...
Simon
As a matter of interest what modem do you use with your TC, I've been using a Draytec Vigor 120 for a number of years but I'm on my third one, two have failed either slowing down of failing completely. I couldn't find an alternative hence the third purchase.
Incidentally I've been using a TC to stream wirelessly in a multi room Sonos arrangement quite reliably for over 3 years. I simply rip a CD in iTunes in AAC or AIFF copy the files (having added artwork manually) to the TC and the Sonos updates the library overnight or immediately If I choose so.
Chris