Dbpoweramp FLAC to WAVE Conversion Still Only Plays FLAC?

Posted by: GraemeH on 23 April 2014

Experimenting I've 'batch converted' my Little Feat albums from FLAC to WAVE using Dbpoweramp.

 

When I look in the source file I see both FLAC and WAVE files now, but the WAVE file has a little musical note to the left of track title where the FLAC above has none.

 

The problem is that nstream browsing from 'album' still only plays FLAC so where am I going wrong folks?

 

Thanks,

 

Graeme

Posted on: 23 April 2014 by Foxman50
Originally Posted by GraemeH:

Experimenting I've 'batch converted' my Little Feat albums from FLAC to WAVE using Dbpoweramp.

 

When I look in the source file I see both FLAC and WAVE files now, but the WAVE file has a little musical note to the left of track title where the FLAC above has none.

 

The problem is that nstream browsing from 'album' still only plays FLAC so where am I going wrong folks?

 

Thanks,

 

Graeme

Graeme

 

When you browse the album in nstream does it show the same track twice. I would imagine it should. You may have to do a clear cache in nstream

 

Graeme

Posted on: 23 April 2014 by GraemeH
Originally Posted by Foxman50:
Originally Posted by GraemeH:

Experimenting I've 'batch converted' my Little Feat albums from FLAC to WAVE using Dbpoweramp.

 

When I look in the source file I see both FLAC and WAVE files now, but the WAVE file has a little musical note to the left of track title where the FLAC above has none.

 

The problem is that nstream browsing from 'album' still only plays FLAC so where am I going wrong folks?

 

Thanks,

 

Graeme

Graeme

 

When you browse the album in nstream does it show the same track twice. I would imagine it should. You may have to do a clear cache in nstream

 

Graeme

No - Just one track list and they are FLAC (did the refresh). I've fished around nstream and found the tracks listed as numbers in 'folder' with the album art next to each track.

 

A bit of a PITA. I thought this would be straightforward to do! Not worth the candle I suspect.

 

Thanks

 

G

Posted on: 23 April 2014 by DWO-Naim

Not sure where or how you store/access/serve your music and I expect you may have done this already but have you re-indexed your media server.

Posted on: 23 April 2014 by Mike-B

I done this a cuppla times.  Problem is dBpoweramp does not convert to WAV as such, it makes a copy & converts & adds it to the same source file with (after) the FLAC track listing.

 

I did it in Windows Explorer, don't know if thats considered OK but it worked for me,  I just highlighted & moved or deleted the FLAC

You can add a new folder so you have 2 folders of the album (different name needed e.g. "Help FLAC" & Help WAV")  & drag & drop to the new folder.

 

Personally I found that WAV are subtly better to my ears - more full sounding & has better fine detail.  So I'm only converting one way if & when I can only get FLAC files. 

Posted on: 23 April 2014 by GraemeH

Thanks Mike but no joy here. Still not being seen by nstream.

 

G

Posted on: 23 April 2014 by Mike-B

OK Graeme, sorry it didn't work out & I'm not sure why

Sorry but I can't help much more - I'm a newbie to this UPnP streaming stuff & need to go play to see what's going on & I'm locked up wit other stuff for a few days.

I deliberately got myself into a bad place tonite & although I was able to "fix" it in Windoz,  n-Serve did not see the same. I ended up in a loss of network selection & the final fix was rebooting the Synology - again not sure why & why to all sorts of questions. 

I'm hope we can both benefit from another forumite with the answer

Posted on: 23 April 2014 by JTB

Hallo Graeme,

 

I am not a wizzard at this but when I convert from flac to wave with dbpoweramp I have the settings output location to original file and dsp effect delete source file. 

And with asset upnp I have to rescan detecting changed files. After that I only see the wave files

Maybe this helps.

 

Thomas

Posted on: 23 April 2014 by GraemeH
Originally Posted by JTB:

Hallo Graeme,

 

I am not a wizzard at this but when I convert from flac to wave with dbpoweramp I have the settings output location to original file and dsp effect delete source file. 

And with asset upnp I have to rescan detecting changed files. After that I only see the wave files

Maybe this helps.

 

Thomas

This sounds promising Thomas - I'll have a go today.

 

Thanks,

 

G

Posted on: 24 April 2014 by hungryhalibut

Mr H, you need a UnitiServe! Rip to FLAC, transcode to WAV. Change one setting and it just works.

Posted on: 24 April 2014 by Gavin B

I'm sure Asset can transcode to WAV too.  What are you using Graeme?

Posted on: 24 April 2014 by Tog

If you must have wav your best choices are:

 

Unitiserve

Asset - transcode 

Minimserver - transcode to wav24 

 

However in most cases provided the original recording is half decent I suspect the real sonic differences are all in the mind.

 

If you have a Dac V1 It matters not

 

Tog

 

 

 

Posted on: 24 April 2014 by GraemeH

I'm using My Book Live Twonky.

 

Just ripped a new cd in Dbpoweramp - one in 'FLAC' and one in 'Wave'.

 

The 'FLAC' rip appears in 'albums' in nstream with all data intact.  The 'WAVE' appears burried in 'folder' in nstream with album art and track listing and it plays fine but the 'now playing' info is titled 'unknown'.

 

Basically all I'm after is for the 'WAVE' file to be listed in 'albums' as that's how I browse and select.

 

The My Book Twonky does not transcode as far as I can determine.

 

G

Posted on: 24 April 2014 by J Saville

Twonky probably doesn't support wav tags, hence why the tracks don't show under artist/album. I would suggest either setting up a raspberry pi with asset installed instead of using twonky, or look at a different nas. I have a netgear readynas running minimserver instead of the onboard twonky service and it's significantly better. 

Posted on: 24 April 2014 by Tog

Ahhh - the return of wonky Twonky

 

Tog

Posted on: 24 April 2014 by Fretfan
Originally Posted by GraemeH:

I'm using My Book Live Twonky.

 

Just ripped a new cd in Dbpoweramp - one in 'FLAC' and one in 'Wave'.

 

The 'FLAC' rip appears in 'albums' in nstream with all data intact.  The 'WAVE' appears burried in 'folder' in nstream with album art and track listing and it plays fine but the 'now playing' info is titled 'unknown'.

 

Basically all I'm after is for the 'WAVE' file to be listed in 'albums' as that's how I browse and select.

 

The My Book Twonky does not transcode as far as I can determine.

 

G

My MBL and Twonky happily allows WAVs and FLACS to co exist. NStream displays both.

Try copying the WAV into the same folder as the FLAC..

Nstream should show both files under the correct tags.   If not, try a manual database rebuild..

 

And you are correct, Twonky does not have any transcoding options, at least not through the menu system.

You can set it to transcode, if you hack the config file, in the Twonky installation but it won't work because Twonky sees that the rendered supports Flac, so does not bother transcoding. It would work if your renderer did not support flac...

 

It also sees WAV tags. The only thing it struggles with is album art in WAV files. I have to rebuild the database and then it sees art as well...

:-)

 

 ps - I use mediamonkey to tag my WAVs...  maybe it is a tagging issue...

 

 

 

Posted on: 24 April 2014 by GraemeH
Originally Posted by Fretfan:
Originally Posted by GraemeH:

I'm using My Book Live Twonky.

 

Just ripped a new cd in Dbpoweramp - one in 'FLAC' and one in 'Wave'.

 

The 'FLAC' rip appears in 'albums' in nstream with all data intact.  The 'WAVE' appears burried in 'folder' in nstream with album art and track listing and it plays fine but the 'now playing' info is titled 'unknown'.

 

Basically all I'm after is for the 'WAVE' file to be listed in 'albums' as that's how I browse and select.

 

The My Book Twonky does not transcode as far as I can determine.

 

G

My MBL and Twonky happily allows WAVs and FLACS to co exist. NStream displays both.

Try copying the WAV into the same folder as the FLAC..

Nstream should show both files under the correct tags.   If not, try a manual database rebuild..

 

And you are correct, Twonky does not have any transcoding options, at least not through the menu system.

You can set it to transcode, if you hack the config file, in the Twonky installation but it won't work because Twonky sees that the rendered supports Flac, so does not bother transcoding. It would work if your renderer did not support flac...

 

It also sees WAV tags. The only thing it struggles with is album art in WAV files. I have to rebuild the database and then it sees art as well...

:-)

 

 ps - I use mediamonkey to tag my WAVs...  maybe it is a tagging issue...

 

 

 

Thanks - The WAVE is in the same folder (but not seen in 'album') and I might try a rebuild if I'm out for the day tomorrow.....or live with FLAC.

 

G

Posted on: 24 April 2014 by JTB

Sorry Graeme,

 

I thought you were using asset upnp. I have a qnap nas which fortunately now supports asset.

When using twonky, wav files only show in folder. And in artist/album you get a large file ,unknown, with your missing wav files.

I do not know a way around this in twonky. 

 

Thomas

Posted on: 24 April 2014 by GraemeH

Sorry if this has been chewed over in the past and thanks for the advice. Uncharted territory for me this but I'll give it a go.

 

G