Jack White - What The ....

Posted by: FangfossFlyer on 08 May 2014

What the .... is this?????         

 

Jack White - Lazaretto

THIS ULTRA LP IS THE STANDARD VERSION OF THE VINYL FORMAT OF LAZARETTO.

 

ULTRA LP FEATURES: 

- 180 gram vinyl

- 2 vinyl-only hidden tracks hidden beneath the center labels

- 1 hidden track plays at 78 RPM, one plays at 45 RPM, making this a 3-speed record

- Side A plays from the inside out

- Dual-groove technology: plays an electric or acoustic intro for "Just One Drink" depending on where needle is dropped. The grooves meet for the body of the song.

- Matte finish on Side B, giving the appearance of an un-played 78 RPM record

- Both sides end with locked grooves

- Vinyl pressed in seldom-used flat-edged format

- Dead wax area on Side A contains a hand-etched hologram by Tristan Duke of Infinity Light Science, the first of its kind on a vinyl record

- Absolutely zero compression used during recording, mixing and mastering

- Different running order from the CD/digital version

- LP utilizes some mixes different from those used on CD and digital version

 

 

Richard

 
 
Posted on: 08 May 2014 by FangfossFlyer

And here is a video with Jack playing it:

 

http://www.engadget.com/2014/0...-ultra-lp/#continued

 

Moderator: Please remove if it violates any Forum rules.

Richard

Posted on: 08 May 2014 by Tony2011

Not many TTs these days come with 78rpm and the LP12 needs an adapter for the 45rpm.

I know Jack is very passionate about vinyl but  I just wish he'd spend some of his time also making better music. 

Posted on: 08 May 2014 by winkyincanada

Reeks of retro-vinyl-valve-analogue hipster chic. Get your skinny jeans on and ride your fixie down to your authentic local record shop where you can stroke your ironic facial hair whilst peering through your thick-rimmed glasses at the selection of vinyl that's on offer.

Posted on: 08 May 2014 by fatcat

Wouldn't playing the record inside out, turn ainti-skate into ULTRA-Skate on a conventional turntable/arm.

Posted on: 08 May 2014 by Steve J

That's taking things just a bit too far.  

Posted on: 08 May 2014 by fatcat
Originally Posted by Steve J:

That's taking things just a bit too far.  

Too True. How would your Monk RCM cope with the inside to out groove.

Posted on: 08 May 2014 by sheffieldgraham

Smacks of self indulgence to me.

If he's such an advocate of vinyl replay, as he would have us believe, I thought he would have been more informed on the technicalities and practicalities of modern turntable replay.

I mean, would you put your stylus on the record label track ---and so on.

Posted on: 08 May 2014 by George J

Me thinks that this is style over content ...

 

I watched the film ...

Posted on: 08 May 2014 by Hook

Or, possibly, he's just trying to have some fun, in a "science experiment" kind of way.

Posted on: 08 May 2014 by Cat lover
Originally Posted by Hook:

Or, possibly, he's just trying to have some fun, in a "science experiment" kind of way.

Yes. This is very funny (hidden tracks under the record label, etc.). I'm tempted by the whole silliness of it all. Oh, and just consider how long these tracks might possibly be. Nice one!

 

Next: hidden tracks on the label side of the CD.

Posted on: 09 May 2014 by sheffieldgraham
Originally Posted by Hook:

Or, possibly, he's just trying to have some fun, in a "science experiment" kind of way.

This lp's going to be free of charge then?

Don't think so.

That's the Yorkshire man coming out of me.

Posted on: 09 May 2014 by James L

No compression! Hello.

 

Anyways a lot of time and effort has gone into this LP as opposed to a huge amount of releases that are trading off the "Hipster Chic" with the pressing not even worth waving at your TT.

 

I hope it sells by the effin truck-load.

 

 

 

 

 

Posted on: 09 May 2014 by Hook
Originally Posted by sheffieldgraham:
Originally Posted by Hook:

Or, possibly, he's just trying to have some fun, in a "science experiment" kind of way.

This lp's going to be free of charge then?

Don't think so.

That's the Yorkshire man coming out of me.

 

Ha!  I hear you Graham. I just think the positives outweigh the silliness. White's production company has undertaken some pretty interesting projects in the past, and they don't appear to be high volume, high profit oriented. Seems much more about music preservation and boutique sales. Note his mammoth, 1917-1932 Paramount box set (the one that comes in a couple of brief cases). Yes, super expensive, but also super high quality and very expensive to produce.

 

White's own music is a matter of taste I suppose. i dug a lot of the old White Stripes stuff, but much of newer solo work leaves me cold. But a number of his production projects are interesting, and the list of artists now recording at Third Man is getting pretty impressive.  White reminds me a bit of Steven Wilson in the breadth and scope of his talent. In fact, I think there is much to admire in how he has developed and grown his recording business.

 

And besides, as a guy who enjoys vinyl, I figure any gimmick that helps keep interest levels up has got to be a good thing! 

 

ATB.

 

Hook

Posted on: 09 May 2014 by sheffieldgraham
Originally Posted by Hook:
Originally Posted by sheffieldgraham:
Originally Posted by Hook:

Or, possibly, he's just trying to have some fun, in a "science experiment" kind of way.

This lp's going to be free of charge then?

Don't think so.

That's the Yorkshire man coming out of me.

 

Ha!  I hear you Graham. I just think the positives outweigh the silliness. White's production company has undertaken some pretty interesting projects in the past, and they don't appear to be high volume, high profit oriented. Seems much more about music preservation and boutique sales. Note his mammoth, 1917-1932 Paramount box set (the one that comes in a couple of brief cases). Yes, super expensive, but also super high quality and very expensive to produce.

 

White's own music is a matter of taste I suppose. i dug a lot of the old White Stripes stuff, but much of newer solo work leaves me cold. But a number of his production projects are interesting, and the list of artists now recording at Third Man is getting pretty impressive.  White reminds me a bit of Steven Wilson in the breadth and scope of his talent. In fact, I think there is much to admire in how he has developed and grown his recording business.

 

And besides, as a guy who enjoys vinyl, I figure any gimmick that helps keep interest levels up has got to be a good thing! 

 

ATB.

 

Hook

Fair point Hook.

I personally preferred his Raconteurs phase to the White Stripes. Each to their own though.

Posted on: 10 May 2014 by James L

Austin City Limits interview with Jack White III (only 6 mins long).

http://vimeo.com/61042151

 

And he's on Fallon this week.

Posted on: 10 May 2014 by FangfossFlyer
Originally Posted by James L:

Austin City Limits interview with Jack White III (only 6 mins long).

http://vimeo.com/61042151

 

And he's on Fallon this week.

 

Along with Neil Young apparently performing a track from A Letter Home.

 

Richard

 

Posted on: 10 May 2014 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by sheffieldgraham:
 

Fair point Hook.

I personally preferred his Raconteurs phase to the White Stripes. Each to their own though.

Same here. I do enjoy the WS, too, but Meg's "drumming" is hard to take. I'd like to see the whole set of albums re-mixed with an actual drummer.

Posted on: 10 May 2014 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by fatcat:

Wouldn't playing the record inside out, turn ainti-skate into ULTRA-Skate on a conventional turntable/arm.

I think it would work just fine. Anti-skate deals with the force vector generated by the "drag" on the stylus not (in general) intersecting the the pivot point of the tone-arm. The very slight different angle of the grooves associated with inside-out direction would very-much be be a secondary effect as the drag vector is generated by rotation, not lateral movement.

Posted on: 10 May 2014 by James L
Yeah but with a "actual" drummer they wouldn't be the White Stripes.... More like The Black Keys!
Meg works in the context of the duo...just like Charlie Watts works with The Stones!
 
 
 
Originally Posted by winkyincanada:
Originally Posted by sheffieldgraham:
 

Fair point Hook.

I personally preferred his Raconteurs phase to the White Stripes. Each to their own though.

Same here. I do enjoy the WS, too, but Meg's "drumming" is hard to take. I'd like to see the whole set of albums re-mixed with an actual drummer.

 

Posted on: 10 May 2014 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by James L:
Yeah but with a "actual" drummer they wouldn't be the White Stripes.... More like The Black Keys!
Meg works in the context of the duo...just like Charlie Watts works with The Stones!
 
 
 
Originally Posted by winkyincanada:
Originally Posted by sheffieldgraham:
 

Fair point Hook.

I personally preferred his Raconteurs phase to the White Stripes. Each to their own though.

Same here. I do enjoy the WS, too, but Meg's "drumming" is hard to take. I'd like to see the whole set of albums re-mixed with an actual drummer.

 

Just watching Jack in "Inside Lewellyn Davis" - a folk jam inspired by the GV scene that inpsired the (excellent) film.

Posted on: 11 May 2014 by Kevin-W
Originally Posted by Tony2011:

Not many TTs these days come with 78rpm and the LP12 needs an adapter for the 45rpm.

I know Jack is very passionate about vinyl but  I just wish he'd spend some of his time also making better music. 

Round my way that is fighting talk... Jack's music - from the WS, Raconteurs, Dead Weather and his own material - has always been vastly better than the vast majority of his contemporaries.

 

I actually like the idea of a hidden track you can't play [xcept with a 78rpm t/t]. It's art, innit?

 

I have the "Ultra" version on pre-order and personally I can't wait for it to come out (and the Hammersmith gig).

 

Keep up the good work Jack.

Posted on: 11 May 2014 by Kevin-W
Originally Posted by winkyincanada:
Originally Posted by sheffieldgraham:
 

Fair point Hook.

I personally preferred his Raconteurs phase to the White Stripes. Each to their own though.

Same here. I do enjoy the WS, too, but Meg's "drumming" is hard to take. I'd like to see the whole set of albums re-mixed with an actual drummer.

But Meg is an "actual drummer". She is in a long line of "primitive" drummers stretching all the way back to Mo Tucker.

 

Musically, visually and conceptually, she was the best drummer the White Stripes could ever have had.The WS were by some very large measure the best live band of their time - they made a noise like Led Zep but there were only two of them - and Meg could easily hold her own with Jack.

 

Next you'll be suggesting the Velvet Underground rre-ecord all their albums with Steve Gadd, The Fall with Jeff Porcaro or Pink Floyd with Billy Cobham...

Posted on: 23 May 2014 by Dreadatthecontrols

I started a thread on this before realising I had been beaten too it here. I admire Jack Whites passion for analogue and vinyl replay but just wish he would direct that passion into manufacturing and pressing quality records which he usually does well. I have been impressed with Third Man pressings of Raconteurs, Dead Weather etc but was disappointed with the Live At Third Man direct cut LP's which should have sounded much better than they actually did, now this novelty record with tracks hidden under the label, side playing in reverse etc will likely sound terrible and do little to show what good vinyl replay is capable of. zero compression etc in the recording and mastering is admirable, so why not just press that onto a decent quality pressing and allow the potentially great sonics to speak for itself.
Fun? yes maybe but my turntable is for playing music not a toy!


Some strange things going on down Third Man Way, Neil Young in Mojo magazine banging on about poor digital sound quality and how he's introduced a pocket Hi-res audio device called Pono as the antidote and then goes and records Blowin In The Wind in a vintage Voiceograph recording booth.
Bah!

Posted on: 23 May 2014 by Kevin-W

Richard, you should lighten up and enjoy! You sound like a hi-fi buff. Jack White has always been about more than just music (magnificent as his music is) - as a fan, you should know that.

 

I love what Third Man does, including the "novelty" stuff, and I can't wait for my deluxe version of "A Letter Home" to come.

Posted on: 23 May 2014 by Dreadatthecontrols

http://www.thirdmanrecords.com...e-lazaretto-ultra-lp