Guide dogs in Restaurants

Posted by: mista h on 11 May 2014

Just got back from Sunday lunch at Planet Spice,our local indian restaurant in selsdon. In walk a couple with their guide dog when the manager strait away refuses them entry to the restaurant. A bit of a heated argument follows with the couple saying its against the law to refuse them entry with a guide dog and threatening to report them saying they could be fined up to £1,500 for refusing entry.

a few phone calls later they were allowed in,but the couple were clearly upset by the grief.

Any of you M/B posters know how the law stands on this one !!

Mista H

Posted on: 11 May 2014 by sheffieldgraham
Originally Posted by mista h:

Just got back from Sunday lunch at Planet Spice,our local indian restaurant in selsdon. In walk a couple with their guide dog when the manager strait away refuses them entry to the restaurant. A bit of a heated argument follows with the couple saying its against the law to refuse them entry with a guide dog and threatening to report them saying they could be fined up to £1,500 for refusing entry.

a few phone calls later they were allowed in,but the couple were clearly upset by the grief.

Any of you M/B posters know how the law stands on this one !!

Mista H

Here's a bit of reading for you.

 

http://www.guidedogs.org.uk/ab...ndoors/#.U2-F4Sjw4fM

Posted on: 11 May 2014 by winkyincanada

Guide and assistance dogs are allowed in restaurants here. We're generally pretty tolerant of dogs in this town.

Posted on: 11 May 2014 by Lionel

I don't think the law requires any dog to be admitted to a restaurant. It requires that reasonable adjustments are made to enable people with disabilities to access services. This might mean the dog is left outside and restaurant staff assist the sight impaired within the restaurant.

Posted on: 11 May 2014 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by Lionel:

I don't think the law requires any dog to be admitted to a restaurant. It requires that reasonable adjustments are made to enable people with disabilities to access services. This might mean the dog is left outside and restaurant staff assist the sight impaired within the restaurant.

http://www.asic.bc.cx/releases...ritishColumbia.shtml

 

This is a summary of the BC legislation. My read is that it goes beyond "reasonable adjustments". Provided that your guide dog doesn't take a seat, and is on a leash or in a harness, it can legally go everywhere you can. 

 

House-trained dogs in general, being more hygenic than babies in nappies, should be welcome in any restaurant (subject to usual obligations not to bite, or other wise disturb, other patrons, of course)

Posted on: 11 May 2014 by MDS
Originally Posted by winkyincanada:
Originally Posted by Lionel:

I don't think the law requires any dog to be admitted to a restaurant. It requires that reasonable adjustments are made to enable people with disabilities to access services. This might mean the dog is left outside and restaurant staff assist the sight impaired within the restaurant.

http://www.asic.bc.cx/releases...ritishColumbia.shtml

 

This is a summary of the BC legislation. My read is that it goes beyond "reasonable adjustments". Provided that your guide dog doesn't take a seat, and is on a leash or in a harness, it can legally go everywhere you can. 

 

House-trained dogs in general, being more hygenic than babies in nappies, should be welcome in any restaurant (subject to usual obligations not to bite, or other wise disturb, other patrons, of course)

I'd certainly prefer to have well-behaved dogs in a restaurant than badly-behaved and noisy young children and babies.

Posted on: 11 May 2014 by Kevin-W

You wouldn't want to take your guide dog into a Korean restaurant though, would you?

 

I'll get me coat...

Posted on: 11 May 2014 by GraemeH
Originally Posted by Kevin-W:

You wouldn't want to take your guide dog into a Korean restaurant though, would you?

 

I'll get me coat...

BYOD...

 

....a nice Beaune with that sir?

Posted on: 11 May 2014 by MDS
Originally Posted by Kevin-W:

You wouldn't want to take your guide dog into a Korean restaurant though, would you?

 

I'll get me coat...

Posted on: 11 May 2014 by mista h
Originally Posted by Kevin-W:

You wouldn't want to take your guide dog into a Korean restaurant though, would you?

 

I'll get me coat...

I think they have been selling Dog in your Pie n Mash shop in Tooting for the last 20years !!

 

Mista H

Posted on: 11 May 2014 by DrMark
Originally Posted by Kevin-W:

You wouldn't want to take your guide dog into a Korean restaurant though, would you?

 

I'll get me coat...

What's wrong with people who wok their dog?

 

Hold on, I'll get my coat also...

Posted on: 11 May 2014 by Don Atkinson
Originally Posted by winkyincanada:

................... We're generally pretty tolerant of dogs in this town.

judging by your portrait avatar, that's just as well winky

I'll get me coat as well..............

Posted on: 11 May 2014 by Jude2012
Originally Posted by MDS:
Originally Posted by winkyincanada:
Originally Posted by Lionel:

I don't think the law requires any dog to be admitted to a restaurant. It requires that reasonable adjustments are made to enable people with disabilities to access services. This might mean the dog is left outside and restaurant staff assist the sight impaired within the restaurant.

http://www.asic.bc.cx/releases...ritishColumbia.shtml

 

This is a summary of the BC legislation. My read is that it goes beyond "reasonable adjustments". Provided that your guide dog doesn't take a seat, and is on a leash or in a harness, it can legally go everywhere you can. 

 

House-trained dogs in general, being more hygenic than babies in nappies, should be welcome in any restaurant (subject to usual obligations not to bite, or other wise disturb, other patrons, of course)

I'd certainly prefer to have well-behaved dogs in a restaurant than badly-behaved and noisy young children and babies.

+1, I wonder whether the 'reasonableness' principle applies and what would that be for children...

 

FWIW, I know that Guide Dog selection has pretty high standards.  A family member takes part in a program to find owners for the dogs that do not make the grade and has them I their house for c6 week at a time. These dogs are amazingly well behaved and I haven't seen why they would have failed.

Posted on: 11 May 2014 by Jude2012
Originally Posted by Don Atkinson:
Originally Posted by winkyincanada:

................... We're generally pretty tolerant of dogs in this town.

judging by your portrait avatar, that's just as well winky

I'll get me coat as well..............

Posted on: 11 May 2014 by Kevin-W
Originally Posted by GraemeH:
Originally Posted by Kevin-W:

You wouldn't want to take your guide dog into a Korean restaurant though, would you?

 

I'll get me coat...

BYOD...

 

....a nice Beaune with that sir?

LOL

 

Prefer a Woof Blass Yellow Label...

 

I'll get me coat again.

 

 

Posted on: 11 May 2014 by Redmires

As they say in Korea....

 

A dog is for life, not just for breakfast

 

 

Posted on: 11 May 2014 by mista h

As we are now going silly have you seen the latest ad !!

 

This isn`t just any old dog...this is a Marks  & Spencer dog.

 

Mista h

Posted on: 12 May 2014 by Derek Wright

Service dogs are trained to to behave while working, regardless of whether they are assisting people in wheelchairs, detecting impending seizures, getting items off supermarket shelves pushing lift and crossing buttons, inserting cards in pin and chip machines, or atms etc etc etc

In the main the dogs are better behaved than children. 

Posted on: 15 May 2014 by Blueknowz

There is cafe in Dundrum Co Down called "Paws 4 Tea" which allow humans in!

 

BBC News - It's a dog's life in the cafe business - BBC.com