FIFA World Cup 2014

Posted by: Chris Dolan on 18 May 2014

Atletico Madrid win La Liga and Arsenal sneak the FA Cup. Citeh's money taints the Premiership - sadly.

 

So who is going to win the FIFA World Cup (sponsored by McDonalds). Is Suarez is going be the top scorer - or would he fail to score with Jordan? Eddie that is 

 

Well it's being held in Brazil - the smell up coffee and wake - imho - what do you guys think?

 

 

 

Posted on: 26 June 2014 by Jasonf
Originally Posted by Clay Bingham:

As I write, Germany has won though we also go to the next round.  The German ball control was in another league. However, I'm thinking a big change is afoot here in the US. Television ratings have been through the roof, higher than the World Series and NBA finals. Our biggest sport by a vast margin is NFL Football. However, recent concerns about concussions and brain damage may signal a changing sports landscape here. Soccer has been wildly popular for years at the grass roots level. As concerns about long term health issues with American football grow, soccer could be the beneficiary. Get a few football and baseball speed merchants playing pro soccer instead of American football and things could get interesting real quickly. I don't think it's unreasonable at all to think that the US could be a real World Cup threat by say 2026 or 2030 and playing in the late rounds earlier than that.

Yep, well done USA.

 

I wasn't sorry to see Portugal go out frankly, they looked as ordinary as England and were very lucky getting a win over Ghana, who, apart from the errors, looked very good overall.

 

Jason.

Posted on: 26 June 2014 by Jasonf

Looking forward to the Russia/ Algeria game. A must win for Russia and a draw for Algeria.

 

Jason.

Posted on: 26 June 2014 by MDS
Originally Posted by Clay Bingham:

As I write, Germany has won though we also go to the next round.  The German ball control was in another league. However, I'm thinking a big change is afoot here in the US. Television ratings have been through the roof, higher than the World Series and NBA finals. Our biggest sport by a vast margin is NFL Football. However, recent concerns about concussions and brain damage may signal a changing sports landscape here. Soccer has been wildly popular for years at the grass roots level. As concerns about long term health issues with American football grow, soccer could be the beneficiary. Get a few football and baseball speed merchants playing pro soccer instead of American football and things could get interesting real quickly. I don't think it's unreasonable at all to think that the US could be a real World Cup threat by say 2026 or 2030 and playing in the late rounds earlier than that.

It would be nice if eventually proper football really took off in the USA.  Given the money and top names who have tried over the years it's curious that it is taking so long. Pretty much every other nation on the planet 'gets' football, regardless of culture, religion, or politics. Football seems to be true unifying sport. So come on USA, the rest of the world can't be wrong!    

Posted on: 26 June 2014 by Tony2011

While I've been away,  I seemed to have missed quite a lot of  things in this world cup, except football

Posted on: 26 June 2014 by Bart
Originally Posted by MDS:
Originally Posted by Clay Bingham:

As I write, Germany has won though we also go to the next round.  The German ball control was in another league. However, I'm thinking a big change is afoot here in the US. Television ratings have been through the roof, higher than the World Series and NBA finals. Our biggest sport by a vast margin is NFL Football. However, recent concerns about concussions and brain damage may signal a changing sports landscape here. Soccer has been wildly popular for years at the grass roots level. As concerns about long term health issues with American football grow, soccer could be the beneficiary. Get a few football and baseball speed merchants playing pro soccer instead of American football and things could get interesting real quickly. I don't think it's unreasonable at all to think that the US could be a real World Cup threat by say 2026 or 2030 and playing in the late rounds earlier than that.

It would be nice if eventually proper football really took off in the USA.  Given the money and top names who have tried over the years it's curious that it is taking so long. Pretty much every other nation on the planet 'gets' football, regardless of culture, religion, or politics. Football seems to be true unifying sport. So come on USA, the rest of the world can't be wrong!    

I'm no sports sociologist, but . . . .

 

First, definitely many many more people have been exposed to 'proper football' here in the States due to the 2014 World Cup.  Myself included. I watched all 3 US games, and finally have a good appreciation -- at least better than I did before.  I'm no expert.

 

Clearly, the nationalism is at play.  It was one team, representing the entire country.  Americans do nationalism in sports pretty well.

 

American Football is IMMENSELY popular.  It's not nationalistic AT ALL; it's regional.  Head injuries are bad for the players, but I cannot possibly imagine fans turning away from it for that reason. 

 

And I do think that Americans exhibit far less of the 'lifetime loyalty' to any professional team here as compared to the lifetime loyalty shown in the UK (and likely elsewhere).  Americans show a lot of lifetime loyalty to their uni football and basketball, but most exhibit regional loyalty to the professional teams.

 

In closing, I think that we "get" world cup soccer this year.  What we don't "get" is the professional game here, and it may be a chicken / egg problem.  The game isn't popular because the games aren't well covered or well attended, which is why it isn't popular . . . . Will attendance at the New England Revolution games here spike in the coming months?  I doubt it.

Posted on: 26 June 2014 by Clay Bingham

Bart

 

Very good points and you could easily be right. But consider a couple more thoughts. First, a good portion of recent immigration into the US is from nations playing soccer. Those immigrants  continue to play and watch soccer. Second, and related, our southern border is next to a country that is nuts for soccer. Third, the US is the third most populated country in the world. Even without a wholesale shift in interest among those participating in our major sports, there's plenty of athletic talent to go around. Hell, one the new and upcoming sports in Southern California is cricket. It's a different world and will fun to watch. 

 

Cheers

Posted on: 26 June 2014 by George J

Cricket is the real game!

Posted on: 26 June 2014 by Hook

Football is our fifth most popular team sport behind grid iron, baseball, basketball and hockey.  

 

Kids growing up here are attracted to the sports they see played on TV, and it is only in the last few years that football has gotten any air time at all. Sponsors do not like football because of the lack of commercial interruptions. The other sports feature constant interruptions, and so the number of commercials per televised event is at least an order of magnitude higher.

 

Workmanlike effort from an ultra-conservative US team today, but advancing from that group was a real accomplishment.  They'll need much better passing, and much more dynamic play to get a win against Belgium in regulation, but I doubt their overall strategy of clogging the midfield will change. Their best chance just might be to play for the draw, and hope that Howard can beat Courtois in a shoot out.

 

ATB.

 

Hook

Posted on: 27 June 2014 by MDS
Originally Posted by Clay Bingham:

 Hell, one the new and upcoming sports in Southern California is cricket. It's a different world and will fun to watch. 

 

Cheers

 

 

Well, Clay.  That really would be a huge step forward for the USA's integration into world-wide sports. Even Afghanistan play cricket. And there's nothing more civilised than Test cricket.

 

MDS

Posted on: 27 June 2014 by Bruce Woodhouse
Originally Posted by MDS:
Originally Posted by Clay Bingham:

 Hell, one the new and upcoming sports in Southern California is cricket. It's a different world and will fun to watch. 

 

Cheers

 

 

Well, Clay.  That really would be a huge step forward for the USA's integration into world-wide sports. Even Afghanistan play cricket. And there's nothing more civilised than Test cricket.

 

MDS


That would be progress for the USA's integration in international culture to be fair.

 

I cannot wait for the first Simpsons episode to include cricket. Then I would know there is hope after all....

 

Bruce

Posted on: 27 June 2014 by mista h

Posted on: 27 June 2014 by Hook
Originally Posted by Bruce Woodhouse:
Originally Posted by MDS:
Originally Posted by Clay Bingham:

 Hell, one the new and upcoming sports in Southern California is cricket. It's a different world and will fun to watch. 

 

Cheers

 

 

Well, Clay.  That really would be a huge step forward for the USA's integration into world-wide sports. Even Afghanistan play cricket. And there's nothing more civilised than Test cricket.

 

MDS


That would be progress for the USA's integration in international culture to be fair.

 

I cannot wait for the first Simpsons episode to include cricket. Then I would know there is hope after all....

 

Bruce

 

There's a large athletic field about 3/4 of a mile from where I live, and I bicycle past it often.  Normally it is split into six baseball fields, but it is also used by the Minnesota Cricket Association, a couple of dozen club-level teams that play for fun.  They also have a youth program.

 

But even though Cricket has a long history in the US, it has zero chance of becoming popular anytime soon.  As Clay mentions above, the rise in football's popularity is in no small part due to the rising numbers of Latin American immigrants.  Yes, we have lots of European and Asian immigrants from cricket-playing countries too, but they are fewer in number, and their passion for cricket can not compared to the Latin American passion for football.

 

Besides, while there are a lot of nuances to good football play, the rules are pretty straight-forward, and kids can easily learn them. Cricket, by comparison, seems inscrutable. Also, busy parents seem able to find the time for their kids to practice and play football. By comparison, the investment in time and gear needed for kids to play cricket seems more than what most can handle.

 

I think that cricket is best supported in the northeast US, where Ivy league schools have played going back to the early 1800's. Beyond that, it's viewed mainly as an odd, foreign pastime, whose matches take way too long. 

 

ATB.

 

Hook

Posted on: 27 June 2014 by Hook

Posted on: 27 June 2014 by Briz Vegas

All this talk about US football makes me think of  the growth of football in Australia.

 

This is is the face of modern Multi- culturalism in Australia.

 

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ckQGQpLvMMA

 

Apparently there was a game of football involved somewhere.  

 

The shift that we saw in Australia started with the birth of the Western Sydney Wanderers a couple of years ago which had a boutique stadium, a large ethnic community looking for an outlet and community driven desire for participation and active support.  It's all a little too blokey for me but I am not part of the young male demographic. Melbourne Victory are like WSW In the way they support their team.  

 

Brisbane still has the family atmosphere but we enjoy the vibe when western Sydney visit.  Our brand of football is more entertaining however, or so we think.

 

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1BQVP_nPn4

 

 

 

Posted on: 28 June 2014 by Hook

Anyone predicting any upsets today?  I am not...

 

Brazil over Chile, 3-1. I think the home town team finally starts to find its form.

 

Colombia over Uruguay, 3-1. Without El Mordedor, Uruguay proves to be just an average team. I see a repeat of their game against Costa Rica. James Rodriguez hat trick? Sure, why not!

 

Yesterday was a good day off. Got a little work done, and rested my TV remote control finger. But I am now totally ready for four days of beer, popcorn and world class football!

 

ATB.

 

Hook

Posted on: 28 June 2014 by Quad 33
Originally Posted by Hook:

Anyone predicting any upsets today?  I am not...

 

Brazil over Chile, 3-1. I think the home town team finally starts to find its form.

 

Colombia over Uruguay, 3-1. Without El Mordedor, Uruguay proves to be just an average team. I see a repeat of their game against Costa Rica. James Rodriguez hat trick? Sure, why not!

 

Yesterday was a good day off. Got a little work done, and rested my TV remote control finger. But I am now totally ready for four days of beer, popcorn and world class football!

 

ATB.

 

Hook

Brazilian win. Not sure how Uruguay will react to LS suspension it could galvanise the team to a brilliant up yours performance or not!

 

Indeed  Hook I needed the rest day but I am also ready to go again. 

 

Regards Graham.

 

Posted on: 28 June 2014 by Chris Dolan
I think Chile might surprise Brazil. Hope not though.
Posted on: 28 June 2014 by MDS

I'm expected Columbia to beat Gnasher's team.  Uruguay weren't impressive with him in the team so won't be as strong without.  

 

I'm hoping Chile will overcome Brazil.  I predict 2-1.

 

MDS 

Posted on: 28 June 2014 by anderson.council
Originally Posted by Wat:

Dear Hook 

 

English cricket would be great for sponsors. There are plenty of interruptions as our England batsman make the long walk back to the pavilion.  As for cricket's complexity, I dispute that and offer a quick summary to support my conjecture:

 

You have two sides, one out in the field and one in. Each man that's in the side that's in goes out, and when he's out he comes in and the next man goes in until he's out. When they are all out, the side that's out comes in and the side thats been in goes out and tries to get those coming in, out. Sometimes you get men still in and not out.

 

When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him out, and when he is out he goes in and the next man in goes out and goes in. There are two men called umpires who stay all out all the time and they decide when the men who are in are out. When both sides have been in and all the men have been out, and both sides have been out twice after all the men have been in, including those who are not out, that is the end of the game,

 

You buy a newspaper on the way home to see who has won.

 

Brilliant.

Posted on: 28 June 2014 by MDS

Looking forward to the Chile v Brazil tie.  Have chilled a rather nice Chilean Chardonnay (Luis Felipe Edwards Gran Reserva 2013) to show my allegiance to Chile and settling down to watch the game. Still hoping for 2-1 to Chile, but am wary of Brazil finding their flair and swagger at some point in the tournament.

  

Posted on: 28 June 2014 by MDS

Good that it's on BBC so no adverts.

 

Pity the Brazilians in the crowd booed the Chilean national anthem. Am rooting for Chile even more now!

Posted on: 28 June 2014 by MDS

First half very high tempo. Chile a little fortunate to go in all square at 1-1 but perhaps unfortunate to have picked up two booking against none for Brazil. Fernandinho lucky not to have a yellow.

Posted on: 28 June 2014 by Steve J

Brazil unlucky to have two big decisions against them. There was nothing wrong with Hulk's goal.

 

I've had to change allegiances to Brazil as I promised I would to my son's beautiful Brazilian girlfriend, who also comes from Belo Horizonte. 

Posted on: 28 June 2014 by MDS

Both teams must be exhausted after that effort.  Who will run out of puff first? Many teams playing Brazil in these circumstances would shut-up shop and play for penalties. Not sure Chile will do that.

 

 

Posted on: 28 June 2014 by fatcat

Oscar is having a nightmare, so far.

 

Has he touched the ball more than half a dozen times?