Uniti Serve and Nas.

Posted by: javipiloto on 19 February 2011

Hello everyone.
I use a UnitiServe.
The control with Desktop Client.
Why I can not change the names of albums and songs stored on my NAS?.
Is it problem of my server, or my Nas?

Greetings.
Posted on: 19 February 2011 by GerryMcg
Were these ripped by the Serve and filed in the Music Store?
Posted on: 19 February 2011 by javipiloto
Thanks for answering.
Not from the serve.
Flac songs are copied from my computer to Nas, sorted into folders, with tags.
I've done rescan in Desktop Client.
Posted on: 19 February 2011 by Tog
What are you using to edit the tags?



Tog
Posted on: 20 February 2011 by GerryMcg
I don't think you can edit music files with the Serve if they were not ripped from there.

I use the computer to edit these files.

Gerry
Posted on: 20 February 2011 by Alamanka
On a separate topic, what is the point of having UnitiServe when using a computer to edit metdata, copy files, control? Is it not just as simple to use a computer for all the ripping and maintenance and have a streaming software on the Nas?
Posted on: 20 February 2011 by Tog
I think the idea of the Serve is that it can aggregate music from all your storage through Naim's extensions to UPnP. I'm still unsure of the logic of this approach when surely it would make sense to have a central store rather than music spread across several different storage types.

Tog
Posted on: 20 February 2011 by DavidDever
Alamanka, you surely can-as Tog has mentioned before, there are other alternatives-though the UnitiServe does it more elegantly (and simply), as well as aggregating EVERYTHING across the network into one service (which you can't do with a NAS-based UPnP server).
Posted on: 20 February 2011 by Alamanka
My understanding was that UnitiServe was an alternative of using a computer to do ripping, tagging and file copying. Apparently it is not completely the case, but at least, with UnitiServe and its applications, it is possible to do the work using "Naim" systems and components, which should be a guarantee of good quality. For someone who has not yet invested the time in learning and trying the various software, it represents a huge value. 
I remember a few months ago, there was a lively discussion: some people were interested in the UnitServe soflware (ripping and serving), but did not want the hardware. Maybe they were right: probably the value of the solution lies in those programs, rather than in the hardware.

Regarding the aggregation across the network, I do not fully understand but maybe some people want this feature.
Posted on: 20 February 2011 by Tog
What I initially misunderstood about the nServe was that it's the software rather than the hardware that makes it stand out. It is all too easy to see it as a very expensive NAS / ripper when in fact it does some very neat tricks with UPnP. For a company steeped in hardware engineering this is quite impressive although I'm sure DigiFi will want some of the credit.



Now if only they could do the same with the forum software.



Tog
Posted on: 21 February 2011 by javipiloto
Thank you all for your opinions.
Of them conclude that you can not edit the tags of music
with the Desktop Client.
I do not understand why you can not.
If I can edit the music ripped to the hard disk of my server, why not my NAS?.
What a disappointment.
The tag the editors with Mp3tag, EasyTAG, MediaMonkey, but there are always problems.
These programs are good, as I want. But when they appear on the server, after doing a scan on the Desktop Client, data title, album, genre, etc appear changed.
Posted on: 21 February 2011 by Alamanka
Javi,

Maybe it is a problem of file format: can the software edit .flac file?
Try to copy a .wav file on your Nas and see if the program allows you to edit it.


Tog:
Yes, the UnitiServe software seems to have been licensed from Digifi. I did not know.  This is interesting. 
What are the neat UPnP tricks you are referring to? Does it translate into features for the user?
Thanks.
Posted on: 21 February 2011 by Tog
@Alamanka Naim claim that it is simply the fact they use exactly the same implementation of UPnP in all their kit that makes it work so well. However, I don't think the ability to aggregate your music across the network is a vanilla set of UPnP protocols and assume (possibly wrongly) that like Linn they have employed a number of extensions to the code - anyway whatever they have done it seems to work.







Tog