Cyrus arrive at Streaming Party late!

We'll see - not sure about the remote control, given the profusion of iPhone / Pad controllers but it could be interesting. Naim and Linn have a lot of competition.

the story goes that the screen on the remote is rather too small for genuinely useful searching. However, any screen's going to be better than no screen in my view.

Regards,
Frank.
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The key for me is Ipad/Iphone access

Still waiting for n-stream to make the jump ....

Tog

And what have you heard that you liked better?

Still waiting for n-Stream to do what before making which jump?

Phil

Hi Phil

the jump to the ipad ... each time there is an n-stream update ... soon I hope

Tog

Oh what a shame - my iPad is en-route to Bristol or maybe I could have taken you a couple of screengrabs...



Phil

Tog

...of course you could always pop along to Bristol and take a look for yourself?

Phil

Would love to but can't ...enjoy the show Phil



Tog

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Tog

The remotes screen doesn't look much smaller than that of a squeezebox controller which does the job just fine. I wouldn't say it was too late either, streaming is surely still in it's infancy?!  Would prefer a nice full width NDX to go with my Naim amp though.

Late in the sense that Cyrus haven't brought anything new to the party - more a frankensqueezelinnaim type streamer sewn together with their glorious Dac XP. It looks cobbled together and I'm a Cyrus fan.

To be fair they had a HDX style hard disk server / multi room setup way before Naim, called Linkserver - it was ... how can I put it ... A niche product ( disaster ) but quite innovative for the time - perhaps this is why they have been so cautious with streamlink.




Tog

       




Phil, seriously, where is the documentation with complete screenshots of the nstream application? Personally, I appreciate toconsult the user guide before I purchase. We are talking about $260 to $300 expense, including the nstream and the apple device, so it is reasonable to examine before buying. Note: in my case the only reason to buy an Apple device is the Naim proprietary control application. (I live happily with Win XP, linux and Android devices.)

I'm not quite sure what you are referring to here ... the n-Stream application is presented in line with the requirements of the Apple AppStore. There are screenshots on there of the application (which will be supplemented by screenshots of the iPad version when appropriate).

iApplications are not usually "documented" as such and so far we've not had any specific requests for documentation from users that I am aware of.

Also what is $260 to $300? n-Stream is £22.99 (UK Pounds) so should be around 30 Euros or $40...

Cheers

Phil

I'm actually not going to be at the show - not sure whether that's because some of us need to stay back here to hold the fort or whether I'm just too big and scary to be put in front of customers.

(/me awaits FixedWheel making some amusing retort as he's met me...)

Phil

This was an Imerge XiVA-based platform (as was Linn Kivor / Akurate Music Server)–as an aside, how many of you remember when Naim Audio announced via press release that they were going to license the XiVA protocol for a range of music servers back in 2002? (It never happened–no products ever came about as a result of that license, although there were commercial relationships that developed as a result.)

That said–I cannot remember whether the CyrusLink utilized UPnP to stream to its network clients. More importantly–the success of any distributed audio system from an integration perspective lies in the elegance of its control, not its sound quality, and, at the time, this was probably a pretty clunky setup (e.g., PDA control, wireless bridges required for connectivity, limited metadata, etc.).

Once you have a functional, elegant system, of course, you can then build products that meet the performance criteria for good-sounding music playback, which is where we are today.

Phil,

In order to run the n-stream application, I would think you need some specific Apple hardware (Ipod Touch). Is it possible to run the n-stream application on a different OS?  I would be very interested about such possibility.
Regarding the cost: if I need to purchase a specific hardware for the n-stream application, then the total cost of the application for me does include both hardware ($220 to $260) and software ($40).

Regarding your answer about the "requirements of the Apple store": I am happy that Naim meets those Apple requirements. Sorry to learn that I am not in compliance with those.  I will try to avoid that in the future as I understand it constitutes a serious violation.
Thanks to let me know about this.

Hi,

The App can't be run an any other OS but does this link...

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app...rve/id345898785?mt=8

...provide the information that you are looking for?

Cheers

Phil

Phil

Thanks for trying, but honestly those screen shots do not provide much information about how the application works.

Looking at the screen shots:
What are "Top 100", "Composers", "Conductors": do those categories come from the UPnP server or are they built in the application? What are the possible "Settings"?
What about "Albums", "Artists", "Genres"? What is "Newest"? What is "More"?
What about folder based navigation?
Can the user only select tracks or is it possible to select an entire node in the UPnP tree?
Can the user see a list of album with associated cover art, like on a PC?

If Naim does not think a written documentation is necessary, at least there could be a couple of videos on Youtube showing and explaining how the application works.

Actually the link I gave you was to n-Serve (for the servers) rather than n-Stream (for the Uniti family).

http://itunes.apple.com/uk/app...eam/id381694252?mt=8 should be what you need...

Phil

Phil,

Ok, now I think I understand a little bit better the selection of the different sources (iRadio, UPnP, etc.)

Once the UPnP source is selected, is the navigation tree presented exactly like on the front panel of the Uniti, reflecting the way the UPnP server is presenting it?  Or does the n-stream application have some built-in views (Album?).

The support for album art looks good.

When looking at the screen shots, my impression is that the n-stream application strictly contain the same set of features as the front panel of the Uniti device, with the addition of support for album art.

Do I understand correctly?

Thanks.

Yes - the iApp mirrors the functionality of the Uniti / UnitiQute / NDX.

Once UPnP is selected then - as with all UPnP clients - what you "see" as a menu tree is *COMPLETELY* dependent upon the UPnP server and what it generates.

Phil

Phil, thanks for taking the time to reply my questions. I appreciate.

Tog, and all, thanks for letting us hijacking the thread.

Looks like an interesting range of products, with an all in one, a rendering source component and a renderer/preamp. I've not heard Cyrus stuff since i owned an Orignal Mission Cyrus 1 years ago, but good luck to them