World Trade Center Building 7 - controlled demolition

You do understand why they called the first cloned animal "Dolly" don't you?

Jason.

Just as sure as there are genetically modified tomatoes, there was a cloned sheep called Dolly!

ATB from George

Somehow it is a bit like Leonid Breznev! He had been dead years before his heart stopped beating!

ATB from George

Spooky!

Yes, Dolly was the first 'healthy' cloned animal, but she soon deteriated with a series of illnesses, arthritus at the age of  4, and then was diagnosed with progressive lung disease before she reached 7 years of age. Then she was unceremoniously euthanised in the same lab that where she was born.

So who is that playing on stage at Glosto?

"The cell used as the donor for the cloning of Dolly was taken from a mammary gland, and the production of a healthy clone therefore proved that a cell taken from a specific part of the body could recreate a whole individual. On Dolly's name, Wilmut stated "Dolly is derived from a mammary gland cell and we couldn't think of a more impressive pair of glands than Dolly Parton's".^[1]

Wikipedia.

Jason.

This is a good read on the phenomenom of too much information, and not analysis and critical thinking.

Whether it is 911 conspiracy theorists, anti-vaccine nutjobs, homeopathy-believing wackos or any other sort of ill-informed and influential group, their power and influence now expands without friction to bring ever larger numbers of people into the depths of idiocy and ignorance. The dark side of the information age.

Well Winky, that's because the government built school system in America doesn't teach critical thinking - students are not taught HOW to think, they are taught WHAT to think.

And what they are taught is slavish obedience to the coproro-government misinformation machine, which is just as disingenuous as those that you outline in your post.

You picks your poisons...

Thank goodness for Canada in the North American Continent, where the tradition is more influenced for the good by the old British and European culture!

ATB from George

Amen !

I think you over-estimate the degree of complicity/malfeasance in the implementation of US schooling. What you're suggesting is scarcely less a conspiracy than the truthers would like you to believe. I believe that the school system is, by and large, doing a good job. OK, I'm veiwing from a Canadian perspective (we have two boys - 11 and 13) in the system. They are well taught. Their teachers are no more members of a conspiracy than I am. If anything, the agenda is often more uncritically liberal than I would like ("Lets all have solar powered cars and save the Pandas!").

Seriously George? You have to be f***ing kidding me, when the EU (especially Germany & Britain) are practically the US' lapdogs vis-a-vis NATO - and I don't say that from a "proud American and we're the best at everything" perspective.  I would LOVE to see Merkel and Cameron, along with many others, tell us to to go f**k ourselves.  The US is a blight on the world stage in foreign affairs...and it is also the biggest terrorist organization on earth.  Hands down more civilians have died in the past 15 years as a result of the USA than Al-CIAda has - even if you spot them the WTC deaths.

That's why both your countries, (Canada & UK) along with countless others, go along with FATCA.  If you don't know what that is, look it up, because it is costing YOU money at YOUR bank, even if your bank has nary a branch or office in the USA.  But because we have the world's reserve currency, we can get away with this crap.  (That gets us much more than our military ever could - but the military is there to enforce the currency, because without it, our politicians and their backers lose their power.)

In fact here's a CBC article on FATCA, showing what bullcrap it is:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/...crosshairs-1.2493864

Fed, ECB, IMF - it's all the same club.  And whoever controls the currency controls the government, the education systems, and the media.  And the Fed in particular has severely overplayed its hand  - the US is insolvent...and they know it.  That is why they are getting even more desperate, both in monetary as well as foreign affairs.

Please - tell the USA to go jump in the lake, and shove our alleged "exceptionalism" where the sun never shines.

I'll leave it to someone wittier and more able to cut to the actual chase answer for me:

DrMark,

While there may be some truth to your view, I don't find the situation as direly pessimistic as you make it sound here. US schools certainly attempt to teach students to be functional members of society, and why shouldn't they? What would be a more appropriate end? A deviation from societal norms? I do not think schools are teaching slavish obedience to a larger conspiratory institution.

Critical thinking may not be at the forefront of curriculum through secondary schools, but it comes into play at the university level. And schools should not be held solely responsible for the development of critical thinking. Parents and the culture at home are responsible as well.

We did - Obama wanted to invade Syria, we didn't. The US didn't invade.

And yet - Elvis is still alive.

I predict conspiracy theorists telling us that the Americans have been to Mars.

I think I'm getting the hang of this. So I aren't.

I was very pleased the UK MPs took that stand, but that had nearly nothing to do with why we didn't invade, which was because the former head of the KGB politically and diplomatically completely outmaneuvered the buffoons in our state dept & executive branch.

By & large, our 2 nations pretty much walk in lock step on the foreign stage - to the detriment of the planet I might add.

JoeRand - I may have a little perspective on this that the average 40+ Naim Forum member doesn't, having just completed a terminal degree in 2011 - however I must run off and go to work because I have a massive student loan to pay off!  I will try to share my experience later...

Hahahahhahaa!!  So some evil cartel at the heart of American government planning to conduct the most heinous act in the history of their country included a female BBC newsreader in their plot?

It's this kind of thing that gives conspiracy theorists a bad name.

Were these buildings constructed in an identical manner?  Would they therefore share identical strengths and weaknesses?

 It was fire that weakened and brought down the twin towers, not aircraft strikes and it was fire that brought down the nearby building.

For the BBC conspiracy theorists, the reporter some years later...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEj-kXPfb_g

My secret is out. Yes I am still alive. Well it's a one for the money two for the show!!!!!!!!

The former head of the KGB is an MI6 plant.

Any fule no that. 

I like more meat on a women so she is in the other room eating a Quadruple Cheeseburger from that famous US chain. Her ass is starting to look a little like J Lo's.

In here somewhere...

http://imgur.com/a/knILO

 Rubbish, wheres Dolly?

Jason

The Brits certainly are the foremost lapdogs of the USA. Just an old empire, sadly in decline, that still wants to matter in world affairs. Bush 2 declared "You're either with us or you're against us". Sadly, GB and the other NATO countries including Canada, and their fawning corporate media outlets, chose to run with the big dog.

I completely agree with Dr. Mark, in that the USA is the #1 terrorist country on this small planet.

Sad but true... 

You forgot to add......"IMHO".......... (to put it as politely as I can)