Can't play 192kHz download

Posted by: DSA140 on 08 July 2014

Hello and help. I have downloaded an album from Linn, which I have done several times before without any problems. This latest album is 24 bit 192kHz and it will not play, but displays the message 'can't play skipped track'.

 

The equipment is a 2TB Zoneripper mini, playing through an NDX. The computer is a Mac.

 

Linn have been very good and answered my email by return asking equipment, but I will not hear back until office hours. In the interim I have downloaded a single track from them, again 24 bit 192kHz but still the same message 'can't play skipped track'.

 

Any advice great fully received.

 

Thanks, Andy

 

 

Posted on: 08 July 2014 by Mike-B

Have you tried re-booting the system -   Zoneripper, NDX,  then anything else thats connected,  wired or wireless.  

If still no play - try to reinstall the file over the original & if that won't/doesn't work delete the original file & reinstall.

Posted on: 08 July 2014 by DSA140

Thanks Mike, rebooting everything at the moment so fingers crossed. I have asked Linn if I could delete and download again, waiting for response on that one at present. Ta 

Posted on: 08 July 2014 by Mike-B

DSA,  I assume you've got a Linn 192khz FLAC file & not 192khz ALAC as NDX will only play ALAC up to 96khz

 

Another thing you might need to try is "convert" the file from FLAC to FLAC with something like dBpoweramp - I needed to do that once with a WAV file I got from HDTracks

 

I assume you download to your Mac & upload after to the Zoneripper ??  so working with dBpoweramp is easy & its a nice to have tool to work with ripped files.  

Posted on: 08 July 2014 by trickydickie

Does your NDX support 24/192?

 

The earlier ones didn't, supporting up to 24/96 and need an upgrade to stream at 24/192.

Posted on: 08 July 2014 by DSA140

Thanks to you both - Mike may have the answer as I did in fact download ALAC 192 not realising its only supported to 96!!

 

the NDX is less tha two yours old so should support 24 / 196 

 

i will have a look how I could convert to FLAC? 

 

Thanks,

Andy

Posted on: 08 July 2014 by hungryhalibut

I'd just tell Linn you made a mistake and they should let you have the flac version.

Posted on: 08 July 2014 by DSA140

Thanks everybody for your relies, I have downloaded a single 24/192 track in FLAC, and yes it plays perfectly ! My error - hopefully Linn will allow me to re-download the origional album again but in FLAC!

 

Many thanks 

Posted on: 08 July 2014 by simes_pep

You can use dBPowerAmp to convert the 24/192 ALAC files to 24/192 FLAC format.

 

Simon

Posted on: 08 July 2014 by hungryhalibut

Imagine it was thirty years ago, and there was a special machine that could convert VHS into Betamax and vice versa. I guess you could turn an LP into a cassette to use in the car though. It's funny how things change. All these formats are very confusing.

Posted on: 08 July 2014 by joerand

It is confusing HH. That's why I'm holding out getting into the streaming game until others have done the legwork to sort out the best format .

 

A big difference with analog copying/converting is there is a loss of fidelity at each level. That's not the case with digital, at least theoretically? I seem to remember that being one of the digital vanguards.

Posted on: 09 July 2014 by Mike-B
Originally Posted by joerand:

It is confusing HH. That's why I'm holding out getting into the streaming game until others have done the legwork to sort out the best format .

Its ever-so-simple joerand = pick either WAV or FLAC  

Naim say WAV is best, others say FLAC

Apple add confusion with their own format in an attempt to be exclusive (read that as market controlling)

 

With something like dBpoweramp to play with format's you can try them all yourself - & make MP3's for your & significant others walkabout players.

You can join in with the Naim & other forums endless discussions on the merits of one over the other - but I think why worry when you have a NAS running at >50% free space,  pick one & go with it,  or do as many do & run a mix of different formats.  

FWIW - I chose WAV as to my ears & on my setup it has a slight edge over FLAC.

Posted on: 09 July 2014 by Harry

It's very easy. Rip to WAV to obtain in WAV. If WAV is not available obtain another format and convert it. 

 

If you prefer FLAC, rip to FLAC or obtain in FLAC. If FLAC is not available (highly unlikely) obtain another format and convert it.

 

All the caveats about providence, generations of masters and the unreliability of remasters are the same ones that apply to vinyl, cassette, DAT, CD etc.

 

Sit back, enjoy your music, trust your ears and ignore all the pseudo scientific wankage.

 

 

Posted on: 09 July 2014 by Aleg
Originally Posted by Wat:
Now can anybody tell my how to get my Samsung CD/DVD/BluRay drive to recognise a SACD?


You can't.

SACD-readers have a decoding chip and Sony is very strict who and for what type of devices they give license for using that chip and it has strict conditions for use of the data read from SACD.

 

What you can do is to read the CD-Redbook layer from a hybrid disc.

 

The only way to read the DSD layer of an SACD and transfer it to a file is via the Sony PS/3 with old (<=3.51) firmware and the SACD-ripper software.

 

Cheers

 

Aleg