JRiver NDX setup help seeked

Presumably jRiver can be a UPNP/DNLA server. If so have you turned it on and configured it?

Yes I have turned on the DLNA server. Perhaps I forgot something, therefore my asking for help.
Still no jriver on n-stream. And the windows mediaplayer plays only mp3, annoying.
The pleasant antipication when recieving the both naims, and now no hires music!
I had no problems setting up the tricky squeezebox. Perhaps I should try an other mediasoftware, any  recommendations, -twonky?

Try asset or minimserver. Both are working well with nstream.

Jrmc is an excellent piece of software.  There is a configuration that says what to stream.  I'll report back the exact location in a few minutes.

With JRiver you need to set up/configure your DLNA server(s) from scratch. Suggest you use Audiophile type server and then configure it to play gapless and transcode to LPCM (WAV) if your files  are saved as FLAC. You will need to configure the different views for each server namely by artist or album and decide any rules to set e.g. File types or genres for each view. Only when you've named and configured and set up the browsing views for your DLNA server(s) will they appear in nstream.

I was waiting to see Kevin's reply - but it seems to have stalled.. I use JRiver sometimes where I want to stream media that is not in my media collection and do this by using JRiver to push to NDX (The NDX appears as an audio device - as JRiver uses UPnP multicast discovery messages to discover the NDX) - seems to work well - but I only use it with its own GUI and not with NStream.

Although I am sure I could set JRiver to work with NStream - but I prefer to use Asset for that purpose as it seems to work best that way for me.

If NDX fails to show up on JRiver - I would put a wired network to a standalone switch in between JRiver and NDX - even as a temporary - and then take it from there... if those discovery messages are being lost or blocked by a poor network device you might have challenges.

Simon

That seems to be my problem, -the NDX doesnt show up in jriver ( and jriver doesnt show at n-stream). My network is wired and I never had any problems with it. I will try to wire direkt only with one switch.
But not just now, in Germany it is very hot and humid., not the right time to rip the network apart. I also will install another software.
Btw. I am listening to my NDX through the digital output of my squeezebox. It is the first time I hear my NDX in my home, the sound is terrific. The iPeng software to controll the squeezebox is perfect, n-stream has a lot to learn.

Mike

You have to enable the DLNA server functionality of JRiver - it isn't on by default.

Tools > Options > Media Network

Tick the box against "Use Media Network to share this library and enable DLNA"

Then, in the same pop up click into ".. add or configure DLNA servers" and set the "Audio Mode"  to "Original" (unless you want to force transcoding).

Additionally you might want at some point to click into ".. Customise views" to use JRivers rich features for making custom views of your music - you don't need to restrict yourself to the default Albums/Artist/Genres .. type scheme.

Click on Services & Plugins on the left of the JRMC screen.  Then click on Media Network.  You should see [in the main part of the window] Overview and this contains the number of servers running.  Does it say something other than 0 and does it also say all running properly?

Why?

The NDX is a streamer, connect it directly to the switch. Configure J.River as DLNA server and check if you see the Media server is running. (In Windows, see in the tray,left bottom popup screen where you see all services running. Don't know the official terms).

The NDX will discover it automatically. Likewise, J.River will show your NDX in it's list of players. Should be a one minute affair.

Regarding J.River vs Asset, please be aware that your only using the DLNA/UPNP server capabilities. You will not use many options in J.River for music streaming. In theory any UPNP server will do. 

Library control is another matter off course.

Mirohh

I think you need to start with the basics. If you have the manual for your NDX I suggest that you read the section on connecting to your network. If you haven't got the original manual you can download a PDF version from the naim website.

The NDX is a network streamer and needs to connect to your home network to play your music files. The NDX can connect either via its wifi aerial but it is best to connect it using an Ethernet cable in which case you unscrew the wifi aerial. You can tell whether your NDX is connected to your network by pressing the spanner button on your remote control and entering the network settings menu. This will tell you whether you are connected to a wireless network or via Ethernet. If you haven't connected your NDX to the network it would explain why JRiver is not seeing it as a device.

I think the media sever doesnt start. When I tick off  >tools >use media network to share...  and then mark this item again the popup "configure  media networks" pops and when I click "next", I get a message: Libary Server could not be registered with JRiver. You need an internet connection...

So the media server doesnt start. This is strange, because I have an Internet connection on that  computer (I can surf the net). I also temporarely disabled the Windows firewall and the anti-virus. This didnt help.
I dont think it is a network problem, because the asset server runs without problem and I can use it with my NDX.
It is because of the multiple setup option I want to use JRiver rather than asset.
Next weekend I will start from scratch, -rewire the network, unitall JRiver and intall it again.

Mike

Doesn't UPnP stand for "Universal Plug'n'Play"? This stuff just seems horrendous.

Asset is very plug and play and I think Naim said on this forum recently that  they had had no customer issues in support for those wishing to use it with Naim network players. It's even plug and play on a Raspberry Pi!!

JRiver is a flexible piece of software but plug and play is something I would not call it.

Simon

You could always use JRiver to manage your library and AssetUPnP to serve it up, though I generally prefer dBpoweramp to JRiver myself.  AssetUPnP is a much more robust UPnP server by some margin than that found within JRiver.

The dBpoweramp CD Ripper / Asset UPnP combo simply works.

If the NDX isn't showing up under "Overview" at the top of the left bar, for some reason the NDX is not making itself shown.

As you noticed, it picked up the Asset Server. 

If I power cycle my WDTV Live, it comes and goes instantly in JRiver.

- Check all three UPNP boxes in the Media Network settings.

- Go to "Client Options" and set audio to "Don't convert audio" ( i think the default set-up is MP3 as to not cause tears before bedtime with new users).

- Note the Port that JRiver Server is using

- Open said port in your router.

Then

- Go to audio settings and change everything to "Gapless"/"Immediate" for pausing, stopping etc.  - You can define "Jump Behavior" if you want

- Turn volume protection and loudness off if not already

You should be good to go on the JRiver side of things.  Now enjoy the power.

I did play with jriver for a few days, its not user friendly to any extent, and besides if you just want a dnla server, jriver is probably overkill

Problem solved: After windows rollback and reinstalling jriver twice it suddenly worked. The problem was, I think, that the internet connection fot jriver was blocked.

Install was now very easy and everything is playing well on my NDX. In the last days I was forced become an expert on jriver. Now I know every tweak.

Mike

Agreed.  But once you realize it is one of the best video players out there, you may find yourself using JRiver to watch and stream video and images.

It shames everything else in terms of organizing and its database functions.  So fast.

-Patrick

The HD tracks downloader is by JRiver and it is total pants. But yes, once collections get big the database speed is vital. iTunes still does everything I want, though.

It did nothing as well as plex or xbmc, sorry.

but i did like the mass of options for audio playback. It looks better than most pc apps on pc, but it looks like the worse app on a mac. They want to charge the full price on mac for a product with half the options of pc, so all in all i declined a purchase in the end. I did like the audio options though.

I found and still find JRiver to be extremely user friendly, and very powerful. If you are happy with the standard Albums/Artist/Genre views then it probably is overkill as a DNLA server, but if you want to create your own views - for example for classical music - then I haven't found anything that comes close.

I am interested to understand how you decided its user friendly, what apps have used to compare?

i found it very un user friendly, the buttons are a mess (is it a java app?) and often clicking a button resulted in nothing happening.