Nstream does not show all the albums stored on the NAS

Nope, no special characters. I have used the hyphen in a few places. That is it.

I have like 110 folders under "rock" parent folder but nstream shows only 72 folders.

It is worth remembering there is no direct link to the drive directory/folders to what most UPnP DLNA servers  will send to NStream.

The server will contain virtual folders  by associating the album meta data to create a virtual 'folder', unless you have some how programmed your server to create virtual albums based on a physical disk directory.. That feels quite wierd.

however if your UPnP DLNA server is not scanning the files and indexing them into a virtual folder, the chances are the files have no metadata or the UPnP/DLNA server can't read the metadata. It is worth noting some more basic UPnP/DLNA servers only have limited support if any for WAV metadata.

if the case might be worth having a check and tidy up.

Simon

Hi Simon,

What do you mean by basic server ?

I have the free mediaserver which comes with the synology running. All my music are wav files.

I have sorted all my music according to genres. Some folders completely show up while some don’t.

Will uninstalling the server and reinstalling solve this ?

Are there some better servers that I should try ?

Cheers !

Hi, I mean a basic UPnP DLNA server application.

i would try and use a recognized server such as Asset or Minimserver that are known to work reasonably well with Naim, if you don't want to use a Unitiserve that is.

Simon

Ah..ok. Thanks..

Are the Asset and Minimserver free ?

Can you point me to the where I can find these ? 

I don't think wav is a wise choice of format for your files. I use mp3tag and tagscanner for tag management and neither program will have anything to do with wav files.  Try converting files in one of your errant folders to flac and see if that makes a difference.  I can certainly recommend Minimserver, particularly for classical music.

John

I have Synology & NDX & all my files are .wav  (except the rubbish stuff) and I see all OK.

I found the trick for me was to rip & tag edit properly in the first place & I've re-ripped a few to achieve this (I use dBpoweramp) I also take care with the hi-res downloads which I check & if required edit.  (I use dBpoweramp's Edit ID-Tag)  

That said I don't view by genre preferring either folder (90% mostly) or artist.   Genre IMO can be a real mess,  it seems to me that there are just too many headings - what's the difference between pop rock & pop/rock for example. 

Keep us all informed how you solve this.  

Hi, Asset is not free, but doesn't cost a lot. Head over to the dBpoweramp website. As Mike says you an check the metadata in your files using various utilities on the dBpoweramp site. This software supports and writes and reads both forms of wav file meta data constructs.

Okay. I am little new to all this. I moved from traditional cd playback to a file playback system an year ago :-)

So from what I gather so far, I need to check metadata integrity for all the folders that I have stored on the NAS. If there are problems with some folders, i need to correct them. Hmmm..how do I go about doing this ? Has anyone done this before ? It would be great if they could chime in please :-)

When you say wav is not the right format, what does it mean ?

Quality ?

Playback problems ?

Metadata problems ?

Me and a bunch of traditional audiophiles prefer wav after comparing many formats in a high end playback system using a dual pc jplay setup. Hence the preference.

Sorry, I am new to many of these things, so please excuse some of these very basic questions.

Not sure of the question. For streaming to work reliably you need to keep it simple.

• Rip the files from CD using a ripper like dbpoweramp
• dbpoweramp will put the meta data into each wAV file. 
• dbpoweramp will also normally put album files into a seperate directory for ease of maintenance and put the album art for that album in that directory.
• use a UPnP DLNA server, such as Asset, to scan those directories, create its database from the metadata such that that NStram can navigate the database.

voila..

So if the media files are not recognized by the UPnP / DLNA server, that is they are corrupt in some way, or the meta data is incorrect or missing, these files won't be built or built correctly into the UPnP / DLNA database and will either not be visible or cause error on playback.

Think of the UPnP / DLNA database as the TOC file on a CD. You don't normally need to think about it unless there is an error, but without it the the tracks can't be found and played out.

if you really want a hands off approach to streaming then I would recommend the Naim unitiserve for  consideration. Nothing wrong with DIY, but as with DIY CD-ROMs you need to know a little of what is going on.to be successful.

Simon

A compressed lossless format has advantages. Eg. flac files are half the size of wav files, so your music library will take up half the disc space.  Backups, downloads and general file maintenance will be faster.  You can still supply a wav copy of the flac data when you stream it by using a transcoding option. Some popular tag editors do not support wav files.  See this discussion: http://tinyurl.com/q6425fw .  As already mentioned, dBpoweramp is excellent for ripping and converting files and whole libraries.

A word of caution: take great care to get the tags right when you add a cd to your library.  Tagging is woefully inconsistent, and left uncorrected will create problems when searching your music database.  For example, the composer tag may be set to "Brahms, Johannes" or more commonly "Johannes Brahms".  Obviously, you will probably prefer the former so that he comes under the B's rather than J's.  Then there can be several alternative spellings of anglicised names such as Prokofiev, Prokofyev or Prokofieff'.  Accents on vowels are another headache.  Global edit facilities in programs such as Tagscanner can help to clean up the tags in an existing database fairly easily.

John

@ Simon,

Thanks. Understood metadata now.

All the cds have been converted using EAC or DBpoweramp to wav files. In some cases, while ripping using EAC, some of the folders were manually named. I am guessing since the metadata is contained in the wav file, this does not matter.

Hi Hertz, when some people recommend flac over wav, it's often because there is less uniformity in how wav files are tagged by ripping/tagging software.  There is a greater chance of tagging issues with wav, between how the ripping software tags the files and how the server can or can't interpret the tags, than with flac it seems.  That said, many people here report good luck with dbPoweramp wav rips, so there is no reason to avoid wav religiously (unless size matters; flac files are typically smaller and can be transcoded by the server back to wav upon playback).

Uncompressed FLAC is probably the best option, as it stores the audio data as uncompressed PCM (reducing the processor load on your streamer) and gives you proper support for Vorbis comments in the FLAC files themselves, as well support for ID3v2 tags - a good music manager should support both tag types, as would nearly every UPnP / DLNA media server within the market.

This also alleviates the need to transcode to WAV (and its corresponding processor load) at the server, given a decent streamer implementation.

As you indicated that you're using a Windows-based desktop, dBpoweramp is probably your best option for ripping and music management.

Assuming you have an up-to-date version of ReadyDLNA / miniDLNA running, UTF-8 support should be built-in - you may actually be having issues at the tagging end of things on Windows, due to character encoding issues.

Hertz - worth checking you have the latest Synology firmware on your NAS.

I don't use one myself but if I remember correctly a few people have repeated issues with the latest Naim app when their Synology NAS firmware / media server was not up to date.

David

https://forums.naimaudio.com/topic/synology-dsm-5-1

https://forums.naimaudio.com/to...84#41551097516521984

Strange..strange..

I went through the folders in my problematic rock folder. Then identified one of the folders that cannot be seen on the n stream. I made a new folder called “ temp “ in the NAS. I copied this album into this temp folder. This album is seen in the temp folder and I can even play this album. So it looks like the wave files are not the problem..

Another observation : Some of my folders display music differently than others. The problematic folders show music in alphabetical order with alphabet headers. Meaning ; it shows A and then lists all albums that start with A, then it shows B...and so on. Other folders show all the folders in alphabetical order with no headers.. does this ring a bell anyone ??