1.5 Million cars per month...........

Posted by: Don Atkinson on 18 November 2014

So, Top Gear (minus Clarkson) is now up and running in China.

 

The growth in ownership means 1.5 million cars per month being added to the traffic in China.

 

My first though was  that George, if he watch that part of the news, might have suffered a major heart attack. I hope not.

 

My second thought was that if the Chinese can splash out on 1.5 million cars per month, then how many Mu-so can they absorb ? And..............wouldn't it be easier if these were actually manufactured in China ? And then the penny dropped.

Posted on: 18 November 2014 by Gianluigi Mazzorana

Tam Tam Audio on the way?

Posted on: 18 November 2014 by George J

Dear Don,

 

It makes next to no difference what any of us do to try to cut Carbon emissions with news like this.

 

There is no way we can expect the Chinese to deny themselves cars when we have had them for a Century in the West ...

 

I only hope that the Chinese are significantly faster learners about the state of the planet than we have shown ourselves in the West over the last forty or fifty years, during which period it was clear to some with a long view that the then [and still current] policy of ever increasing population and material consumption would prove both unsustainable and potentially destructive to the planet Earth.

 

As you know this is something I first discussed in 1974 with the late Arnold Darlington - eminent biologist - and this changed my life view as a then eleven year old. It was I who initiated the conversation, and Mr. Darlington simply said that I would be shown to be right to have concerns of the gravest sort. 

 

This was long before the Green Movement was widely know, or certainly not known at all to an eleven year old school boy. I worked it out for myself before the lecture, and I plucked up the courage to see Mr. Darlington afterwards. The lecture itself was on the newly arrived Dutch Elm Disease.

 

It is no consolation to me that I shall almost certainly have died before the worst of the coming unknown and unknowable consequences of this ever growing and even more consuming population of humans does bring tthe ecology of the Earth to its knees ...

 

I wish that I had one more name in the middle. ... Malthus.

 

ATB from George

Posted on: 19 November 2014 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by Don Atkinson:

So, Top Gear (minus Clarkson) is now up and running in China.

 

The growth in ownership means 1.5 million cars per month being added to the traffic in China.

 

I think there were 1.5 million cars parked on the freeways of Chicago when I was trying to get to O'hare yesterday. Why people sign up for that existence continues to baffle me.

Posted on: 19 November 2014 by George J

The motorcar is the [US] American dream of advertised freedom and individual expression ... Strangely advertising is just like cheap perfume - very powerful.

 

Apparently it has even worked in China, which might not have been expected. Poor Chinese. Poor planet Earth.

 

ATB from George

Posted on: 19 November 2014 by Tony Lockhart

A year or two ago I received immediate criticism on a forum for saying something along the lines of "If the UK ceased to exist tomorrow, China would have more than made up for our emissions within a few months." 

 

I'm saving  fair few squids on heating with this mild November weather. Win Win!

Posted on: 19 November 2014 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by Tony Lockhart:

A year or two ago I received immediate criticism on a forum for saying something along the lines of "If the UK ceased to exist tomorrow, China would have more than made up for our emissions within a few months." 

 

I'm saving  fair few squids on heating with this mild November weather. Win Win!

The US and Eastern Canada are more than making up for your mild weather with pretty ridiculous early-season cold, and heavy snowfalls in some areas.

Posted on: 20 November 2014 by Don Atkinson
Originally Posted by winkyincanada:
Originally Posted by Tony Lockhart:

A year or two ago I received immediate criticism on a forum for saying something along the lines of "If the UK ceased to exist tomorrow, China would have more than made up for our emissions within a few months." 

 

I'm saving  fair few squids on heating with this mild November weather. Win Win!

The US and Eastern Canada are more than making up for your mild weather with pretty ridiculous early-season cold, and heavy snowfalls in some areas.


So global warming is a thing of the past....................

 

I think that the US introduced about 1.2 million new cars per month last year, but many of those were replacements for older, existing cars, whilst most of China's were new entrants to the world of motoring.

Posted on: 20 November 2014 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by Don Atkinson:
Originally Posted by winkyincanada:
Originally Posted by Tony Lockhart:

 

 

I'm saving  fair few squids on heating with this mild November weather. Win Win!

The US and Eastern Canada are more than making up for your mild weather with pretty ridiculous early-season cold, and heavy snowfalls in some areas.

So global warming is a thing of the past....................

 

 

And in other news, Chicago's traffic was flowing smoothly at 2:00am this morning, leading to the conclusion that traffic congestion in the city is a thing of the past. Meanwhile, a wave went out at Bondi beach leading to forecasts that the oceans were draining away and Australians would soon be able to walk to New Zealand. Soon after, another wave came in, leading to forecasts that Australia would be completely under water in 48 hours.

Posted on: 20 November 2014 by Kevin-W
Originally Posted by George J:

The motorcar is the [US] American dream of advertised freedom and individual expression ... Strangely advertising is just like cheap perfume - very powerful.

 

Apparently it has even worked in China, which might not have been expected. Poor Chinese. Poor planet Earth.

 

ATB from George

George, it shouldn't be a surprise - advertising definitely works (companies invest billions in it - and they wouldn't spend so much if it didn't change behaviour); it is the engine which powers modern capitalism. It's a universal language that plays on our dreams and desires - and it works everywhere: in China, the US, Palestine and the favelas of Rio.

 

What IS surprising is that so much bad (not just good) advertising works.

 

It's interesting - cars are often sold on the fact that they confer freedom and independence. True, perhaps in the wide open spaces of America, but the reality for so many is sitting for hours on end in gridlocked fume-choked cities, waiting to crawl forward a few yards. This will be the case I suspect in China.

 

Also, I wouldn't worry about the planet - it, and most of the life it is home to, will be here long after we are all gone.

Posted on: 20 November 2014 by DavidDever
Originally Posted by winkyincanada:
Originally Posted by Don Atkinson:

So, Top Gear (minus Clarkson) is now up and running in China.

 

The growth in ownership means 1.5 million cars per month being added to the traffic in China.

 

I think there were 1.5 million cars parked on the freeways of Chicago when I was trying to get to O'hare yesterday. Why people sign up for that existence continues to baffle me.

...that's what shortcuts and side-streets are for. Or the CTA "L" trains, to which one may ride to either Midway or O'Hare airports....

Posted on: 20 November 2014 by Don Atkinson
Originally Posted by winkyincanada:

 

 

And in other news, Chicago's traffic was flowing smoothly at 2:00am this morning, leading to the conclusion that traffic congestion in the city is a thing of the past. Meanwhile, a wave went out at Bondi beach leading to forecasts that the oceans were draining away and Australians would soon be able to walk to New Zealand. Soon after, another wave came in, leading to forecasts that Australia would be completely under water in 48 hours.

I know, That's the media for you. News stories are more avidly reported and consumed when portayed as "bad news" than when portayed as "good news". Sorting fact from fiction is difficult if TV news bulletins are the primary source of information.