Should Naim (dealers) join Black Friday?

Posted by: Tony2011 on 27 November 2014

Do dealers have a choice?

Posted on: 30 November 2014 by Mick P
Originally Posted by Steve J:
Originally Posted by Hungryhalibut:

The thread started off with the question of whether Naim dealers should do Black Friday promotions. You can just imagine the BMWs parked outside as their owners beat the crap out of each other over NDSs selling for £3,000. 

Nah. Not cheap enough. 

Surely the common sense thing to do is to sit outside the shop in the comfort your car and pay a chav £25 to go through the scrum on your behalf.

Posted on: 30 November 2014 by Kevin-W
Originally Posted by winkyincanada:
Originally Posted by Kevin-W:
 The thing is, it's not a British tradition...

Why is that the "thing"? Would you think differently if it was British?

Perhaps, but I rather doubt it. It's just another example of crass Yankee cultural imperialism, and I don't like it, and would rather people didn't fall quite so easily fall for this shit. Still, you (in Canada I presume) seem happy enough to lap it up, so good for you. Just don't try to stop me having a moan (here in Britain).

Posted on: 30 November 2014 by Kevin-W
Originally Posted by Mick P:

Chaps

 

Why all the fuss and complaining.

 

I found it quite entertaining to watch a load of plonkers getting half killed in a scrum, a bit like the Roman gladiator type of thing to be honest. 

 

 All this for the sake of buying an out of date TV for a few quid less than what it was going for last week.  If people are dumb enough to get suckered into doing this, then it's up to them but it's a free world etc and no one forces anyone to do it.

 

Jolly good fun all round and quite entertaining and if nothing else, it has given some of you something else to moan about. Let it roll.

 

Regards

 

Mick

 

 

Mick,

 

I am indifferent to whether or not people fight in Asda over cheap TVs; after all, none of this is new - bad behaviour at Boxing Day sales has long been a staple of the news in the immediate post-Christmas period.

 

The reason I've got the arse about Black Friday is that for the past fortnight my inbox has been groaning under the weight of unsolicited emails from all and sundry telling me all about their "amazing' "Black Friday" "deals". Then there are the breathless PRs who've been ringing me up all week offering me "access to" and "exclusive comment from" their "experts" for my "Black Friday features". What "Black Friday feature" would that be then? I don't remember telling anyone I was writing anything about Black Friday. I don't remember anyone commissioning me to do so either. The cumulative weight of all this assumption is particularly wearing.

 

Also, this is an American thing, to do with Thanksgiving, which we don't celebrate - yet.

Posted on: 30 November 2014 by Mick P

Kevin

 

I would guess that I also have received near to one hundred emails inviting me to partake in some useless Black Friday sale.  It takes about two minutes to delete them and to be frank, it is no big deal.

 

If a few phone calls wear you out, then time to visit your Doctor.  This is simply a fuss over nothing.

 

Forget about this being an American thing, the internet is killing boundaries, so live with it and cheer up.

 

Regards

 

Mick

Posted on: 30 November 2014 by Bruce Woodhouse
Originally Posted by Mick P:

Kevin

 

I would guess that I also have received near to one hundred emails inviting me to partake in some useless Black Friday sale.  It takes about two minutes to delete them and to be frank, it is no big deal.

 

If a few phone calls wear you out, then time to visit your Doctor.  This is simply a fuss over nothing.

 

Forget about this being an American thing, the internet is killing boundaries, so live with it and cheer up.

 

Regards

 

Mick

Please, please do not consider  this a reason to visit your doctor.....

 

Bruce

Posted on: 01 December 2014 by Peter Dinh
Originally Posted by winkyincanada:

Black Friday. A celebration of crass consumerism, obsession with possession, waste and idiocy.

Black Friday sales, yes.

Is it not good for the economy? Is it not good for the retailers, and not good for us, the consumers?

Having said that, I am not a fan of shopping, however I think it is a good thing after all  

Posted on: 01 December 2014 by bishopla

I Love that song;

 

When Black Friday comes
I'm gonna dig myself a hole
Gonna lay down in it 'til
I satisfy my soul
Gonna let the world pass by me
The Archbishop's gonna sanctify me
And if he don't come across
I'm gonna let it roll
When Black Friday comes
I'm gonna stake my claim
I'll guess I'll change my name

 

Writer(s): Walter Carl Becker, Donald Jay Fagen

Posted on: 01 December 2014 by joerand

Good god, it's Cyber Monday! Looks like we all survived Black Friday.

Posted on: 02 December 2014 by Frenchnaim

Fine if you believe our consumer society is the be-all and end-all.

 

Is it not good for the economy? Is it not good for the retailers, and not good for us, the consumers?

Posted on: 02 December 2014 by Harry
Originally Posted by Kevin-W:
Here, we have no tradition of Hallowe'en - it was imported about 15 years ago by retailers and confectionery companies. We had a perfectly nice autumn festival, Bonfire Night, which involved explosions and burning effigies of people we dislike 

Really? I think you'll find it's the other way around. All Hallows' Eve, Samhain  or whatever you want to call it has been going for thousands of years and christian revisionism won't change that. 

 

Bonfire Night is the most blatant waste that I see apart from New Year's Eve. People burning money. Incredible and revolting.

 

Posted on: 02 December 2014 by Don Atkinson
Originally Posted by Harry:
Originally Posted by Kevin-W:
Here, we have no tradition of Hallowe'en - it was imported about 15 years ago by retailers and confectionery companies. We had a perfectly nice autumn festival, Bonfire Night, which involved explosions and burning effigies of people we dislike 

Really? I think you'll find it's the other way around. All Hallows' Eve, Samhain  or whatever you want to call it has been going for thousands of years and christian revisionism won't change that. 

 

Bonfire Night is the most blatant waste that I see apart from New Year's Eve. People burning money. Incredible and revolting.

 

There's a lot of miserable negativity around these parts. If people want to enjoy Hallowe'en, Bonfire Night, New Year's Eve, Black Friday, Good Friday, Thanksgiving, Xmas, Diwani, Eid This, Eid That, St Patrick's Day, Burn's Night or whatever, let them. For the most part its not (yet) compulsary and for the most part not too intrusive on normal life.

Posted on: 02 December 2014 by Peter Dinh
Originally Posted by Don Atkinson:
Originally Posted by Harry:
Originally Posted by Kevin-W:
Here, we have no tradition of Hallowe'en - it was imported about 15 years ago by retailers and confectionery companies. We had a perfectly nice autumn festival, Bonfire Night, which involved explosions and burning effigies of people we dislike 

Really? I think you'll find it's the other way around. All Hallows' Eve, Samhain  or whatever you want to call it has been going for thousands of years and christian revisionism won't change that. 

 

Bonfire Night is the most blatant waste that I see apart from New Year's Eve. People burning money. Incredible and revolting.

 

There's a lot of miserable negativity around these parts. If people want to enjoy Hallowe'en, Bonfire Night, New Year's Eve, Black Friday, Good Friday, Thanksgiving, Xmas, Diwani, Eid This, Eid That, St Patrick's Day, Burn's Night or whatever, let them. For the most part its not (yet) compulsary and for the most part not too intrusive on normal life.

Right! Why feel negative  about these events? 

Posted on: 02 December 2014 by Harry

Couldn't agree more Don. That was not my point. If people want to burn money that's their prerogative. Just as it's mine to be appalled by it and to say so.  And as for the traditional bonfire night being usurped by Halloween twaddle, that’s just revisionist rubbish, which it is anyones' prerogative to believe or refute.

Posted on: 02 December 2014 by Tony2011

So, Naim did not want to follow the trend and chose Tuesday instead to announce their sales: S600s half price. What shall we call it, "Bleak Tuesday"?

It it looks like it's the end of the road for the 600s!

Posted on: 02 December 2014 by Steve J

Speaks volumes. 

Posted on: 02 December 2014 by Tony2011
Originally Posted by Steve J:

Speaks volumes. 

Very good, Steve. I wonder if there are any more surprises on the way? 

Posted on: 02 December 2014 by hungryhalibut

The same thing happened when the SBL was discontinued. Maybe there are just too many black and white ones, or maybe it's really the end of the road. Will the 400 and 800 be next?

Posted on: 02 December 2014 by joerand

And will Focal be announcing a new line of speakers featuring balanced mode radiators?

Posted on: 02 December 2014 by Steve J
Originally Posted by Hungryhalibut:

The same thing happened when the SBL was discontinued. Maybe there are just too many black and white ones, or maybe it's really the end of the road. Will the 400 and 800 be next?

Absolutely HH. They weren't exactly Naim's most successful speaker range and with the new company structure each product will probably have to justify it's existence with good sales. I can also see a simplification of the streamer product range on the cards as DAC technology continues apace.

 

Posted on: 03 December 2014 by Jonathan Gorse

It always amuses me that we Brits celebrate a bloke who tried to blow up our national seat of Government with gunpowder with a national festival.  I like that kind of irony rather more than I like the capitalist green eyed monster...

 

Jonathan

Posted on: 03 December 2014 by Steve J

I was always under the impression we were celebrating the foiling of Guy Fawkes plot to blow up Parliament.

 

Remember, remember the 5th of November, gunpowder, treason and plot.

Posted on: 03 December 2014 by joerand

Guy Fawkes tried to blow up Parliament? No wonder he got banned from the forum.

Posted on: 03 December 2014 by joerand
Originally Posted by Steve J:

Remember, remember the 5th of November, gunpowder, treason and plot.

Oh, now the ending to John Lennon's song Remember is making a lot more sense to me.

Posted on: 04 December 2014 by Harry
Originally Posted by Jonathan Gorse:

It always amuses me that we Brits celebrate a bloke who tried to blow up our national seat of Government with gunpowder with a national festival.  I like that kind of irony rather more than I like the capitalist green eyed monster...

 

Jonathan

Yeah. Ane we burn his effigy along with those of other people we don't like, which is (a) hateful and (b) witchcraft. Very traditional.

Posted on: 05 December 2014 by Jan-Erik Nordoen

Here, we've gone from "Black Friday" to "Cyber Monday" and today "Great Intergalactic Savings", the latter thanks to Future Shop. Monday should be interesting.