Airport Express

Posted by: CP62 on 12 December 2014

 

Good evening,

 

 

 

I have no way to install a cat 6 cable from my Router to my Naim so it has to be wireless. 

The Wi-Fi inside the SuperUniti  is only 2.4GHz so it’s not possible to stream 24/192 so thinking of a solution I bought the AsusEA-N66 Dual-Band Wireless-N900 Gigabit 3-in-1 AP/Wi-Fi Bridge/ Range Extender and connected with UPT cable to my SuperUniti  but did not get this working. So my next idea was can I connect an Apple airport Express  and it connect with UTP to my SuperUniti . And because the Apple is  2.4GHz/ 5GHz is it  then possible then to stream 24/192? Before I go to the shop and buy and install it and have to take it back again and  it’s better to ask advice before ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Posted on: 12 December 2014 by Penarth Blues

I use Solwise powerlines to take the feed from my router to a room 2 floors below. Then connect a LAN Cat 6 feed from the matching powerline in my living room to a switch. Another Cat 6 cable from the switch to my Uniti2 completes the link. Works excellently.

Posted on: 12 December 2014 by Bart

24/192 is the most difficult to stream.  The variables include not just the hardware, but the wifi conditions in your home.  Do you live close to others - or is your home free from interfering wifi signals of others. Etc. etc.  

 

There are no guanantees -- you'll just have to try.

Posted on: 12 December 2014 by ChrisSU

What are you streaming from? If you have a NAS/UPnP server, can you move it next to your Superuniti and connect them with a switch? Then you have a wired connection for streaming, which is the important bit. Connect your wifi range extender to the switch too, and that connects your SU to your router wirelessly for iRadio, Spotify, etc.

Posted on: 12 December 2014 by LeeTom
I have used an Airport Express to stream 24/192 music to a SuperUniti with no dropouts. Works great.
Posted on: 12 December 2014 by LeeTom
PS: making sure it's operating at wide-band 5ghz is the key.
Posted on: 12 December 2014 by Peter Dinh

Just curious - Why is it not possible to stream 24/192 over 2.4 Ghz?

Posted on: 12 December 2014 by LeeTom
It's theoretically possible but real world results are mixed at best in my experience. 5ghz is solid for audio, so if one has an airport express it makes sense to put it into 5ghz + wide band.
Posted on: 12 December 2014 by Peter Dinh

 

I am still not convinced that 2.4 Ghz or 5 Ghz has anything to do with 24/192 streaming. All you need is a stable, steady wifi network.

Posted on: 13 December 2014 by Simon-in-Suffolk
Originally Posted by Peter Dinh:

Just curious - Why is it not possible to stream 24/192 over 2.4 Ghz?

Peter, you can stream 24/192 with some of the protocols using the 2.4GHz ISM band. Quite frankly mentioning the ISM bands (either 2,4 GHz or 5 GHz) is misleading and doesn't neccessarily imply anything.

 

They key thing is the protocol, envionment/signal strength and congestion

 

Protocol.    ISM.            24/192

------------   --------           ----------

802.11a     5GHz.          No

802.11b     2.4GHz.       No

802.11g     2.4GHz.       Fairly unlikely

802.11n     2.4/5GHz.    Quite likely

802.11ac   2.4/5GHz.    More likely

 

It is true currently, there are less broadband home routers using the 5GHz ISM band as default, therefore that band is less congested and so there is less congestion and therefore greater throughput.. But that position will almost certainly change over the next couple of years iMO.

 

Most, if not all, Naim devices don't support 802.11ac. I don't know if the Muso supports 802.11ac, which is a significantly more capable protocol than its predecessors.

 

Simon

 

Posted on: 13 December 2014 by Dambor

I use that set up: an AE as a wireless bridge from my router (an "n" 2.4/5ghz Airport Extreme), which connects with an Audioquest Cat cable to my ND5XS. Network used is "n" at 5 ghz. Router is about 4/5 meters from AE, no main obstacles in the way. It works perfectly for ALAC or FLAC at 24/192. It sometimes work and sometimes doesn't for WAV at 24/192. Works perfectly in lossless or wav for anything below that. You also get the extra of getting Airplay if you connect the AE to the toslink input of your streamer.

If you have an "ac" capable router and AE (mine are the previous generation), I'm sure it will work perfectly also for wav 24/192

Posted on: 13 December 2014 by BigH47

Muso is :- Wi-Fi (802.11b/g) 2.4GHz from NAIM website specifications.

Posted on: 13 December 2014 by likesmusic

I have successfully used an AE as a wireless to ethernet bridge - if you buy from an Apple Store they'll give you your money back within 30 days, so you've nothing to lose trying. (I tried an AirPort Extreme as a router as well, but turned out I didn't need it, so those nice Apple people refunded me without any hassle). 

Posted on: 13 December 2014 by Peter Dinh
Originally Posted by Simon-in-Suffolk:
Originally Posted by Peter Dinh:

Just curious - Why is it not possible to stream 24/192 over 2.4 Ghz?

Peter, you can stream 24/192 with some of the protocols using the 2.4GHz ISM band. Quite frankly mentioning the ISM bands (either 2,4 GHz or 5 GHz) is misleading and doesn't neccessarily imply anything.

 

They key thing is the protocol, envionment/signal strength and congestion

 

Protocol.    ISM.            24/192

------------   --------           ----------

802.11a     5GHz.          No

802.11b     2.4GHz.       No

802.11g     2.4GHz.       Fairly unlikely

802.11n     2.4/5GHz.    Quite likely

802.11ac   2.4/5GHz.    More likely

 

It is true currently, there are less broadband home routers using the 5GHz ISM band as default, therefore that band is less congested and so there is less congestion and therefore greater throughput.. But that position will almost certainly change over the next couple of years iMO.

 

Most, if not all, Naim devices don't support 802.11ac. I don't know if the Muso supports 802.11ac, which is a significantly more capable protocol than its predecessors.

 

Simon

 

Thanks Simon.

 

I think if you have little interference, or less congestion then you should be fine at either wireless g/n/ac regardless where it is 2.4 Ghz or 5 Ghz. The reason it is usually better at 5Gz because maybe you are the only one in your neighborhood using it. 

Posted on: 19 December 2014 by CP62

Well i bought the Airport Express put on 5 ghz and it works. So i am a happy man

 

Wishing you all  Merry Christmas and a wonderful Happy New Year!