Upnp on muso

Posted by: Chameleonclaude on 30 December 2014

My sonos can play songs from a hardrive connected to my mac mini via usb. It's touts was mapped through the library setting in sonos, but for reason unknown to me I can get any of my songs to play on the muso when selection tracks through the upnp input. The muso can see all of the music but for some strange reason the tracks won't play.

Can anyone help?

Ps. My wireless network is apple airports.
Posted on: 30 December 2014 by Bart
Originally Posted by Chameleonclaude:
My sonos can play songs from a hardrive connected to my mac mini via usb. It's touts was mapped through the library setting in sonos, but for reason unknown to me I can get any of my songs to play on the muso when selection tracks through the upnp input. The muso can see all of the music but for some strange reason the tracks won't play.

Can anyone help?

Ps. My wireless network is apple airports.

It sounds like you don't have a UPnP server running.  If you ask the Mu-So to serve as a UPnP player, you need to have a UPnP server on the network in order to 'feed' it. 

Posted on: 30 December 2014 by Chameleonclaude
Thanks for help. Downloaded server and now working. Very slow though!
Posted on: 30 December 2014 by Bart
Originally Posted by Chameleonclaude:
Thanks for help. Downloaded server and now working. Very slow though!

Which server are you running?  On your Mac?  What's slow -- the download or the music?  Hopefully the music isn't slow!!

Posted on: 31 December 2014 by Chameleonclaude

Im Running majestic, it's free but seems good. I added the relevant folders into the server but when I request to play a track through the naim must app, it takes about 30 seconds to start playing and occasionally drops out. I show mention that the music is stored on a external drive connected to the Mac mini by usb2.0 and the mac is wirelessly connected to the network as is the Mu-so.

 

I wondering if there is just to much wireless going on and whether I should consider either running very long ethernet cables which wouldn't be easy, or buying a as which is attached to the primary router via ethernet.

 

Of course any thoughts Bart would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Posted on: 31 December 2014 by Chameleonclaude
Connected muso to nearest airport via Ethernet to reduce wireless communications but MuSo still not playing reliably at all
Posted on: 31 December 2014 by Ian_S

It does sound like a very poor wifi signal. 

 

What happens just to help eliminate issues if you plug the muso and mac mini into the same Ethernet switch with no wireless? Does it then play without any skipping?

Posted on: 31 December 2014 by Chameleonclaude
I'm running majestic. It dropped out less when I moved the folder on to desktop this eliminating the bottle necking between the external hard drive and the macmini. I think I will end up buying a nas drive connected directly to the primary router which will completely eliminate wireless communication. That said I'm not surey ears can hear a real difference between purchased 24bit flac and streamed 26bit flac, so I may abandon the whole upnp project anyhow!
Posted on: 31 December 2014 by Bart

Wifi definitely can be an issue even with redbook quality files -- you may have a poor signal, interference from neighbors, interference from home appliances, etc etc.  Wired ethernet definitely is preferred for reliability.

 

I don't know Majestic, but Minimserver gets very good reviews and I've used it on a nas with success.  You may be right -- too many links in total between the usb drive, to the Mac, to the wifi, to the Mu-so.  If you want to stick with UPnP, a dedicated nas connected to your switch should be more robust!

Posted on: 31 December 2014 by Iron Cobra

Slightly off topic, will the muso connect to a macbook pro using bluetooth to play from iTunes? I was going to use UPnP, however with Upnp issue mentioned it might be a problem. Would it work if the Muso App was downloaded on to the Mac, would the muso then be able to play from the mac? This works with Sonos using a mac mini as the source and control via ipad

 

Brother in law got a muso for christmas and we want to give it a good listen tonight. He is a bit of a technophobe and only listens to spotify but has a cd collection he never listens to. So, I want to educate him to what else the muso can do.

 

Posted on: 31 December 2014 by Chameleonclaude
Well I'm certainly not the final word so do hope someone else clears up anything I've missed or misunderstood!

Your Mac can play from iTunes using AirPlay. Bluetooth is probably reserved for pc's as they don't have AirPlay.

Naim app will basically operate as the remote control except it has the additional Spotify function which enables the Spotify program embedded in the muso.

An Ethernet cable connecting your Mac to the muso via upnp will stream music at higher bit rates than any of the wireless options though you won't benefit from that unless you either rip cd's to 16 bit flac or sign up to qobuz which is just as high. It's worth trying qobuz on free trial. Another simple connection is usb to usb. You've also got toslink which is excellent.
So basically wired connection are best.

Is any of this useful?