Where have manners gone on this Forum??!

Some do expand & remain as polite, at least as much as most forums

But forums tend to be this way,  they are not polite letters to the editor

Many are just so used to the ever-growing sms short text of writing or twitter/facebook limited context way. Also many are using G3 devises to access the forum & are limited. 

Others just shoot a line with no nice stuff,   & regretfully some hide behind the anonymity of the forum which causes some less than civilized contents

In the last 10 or so years on this forum, the collegial, good natured Naim brethren has seemingly eroded to being the domain of a few- often quick to flame- "experts" who take delight in pontificating their vast knowledge of their own BS.

The helpful and educational dialog that was once shared amongst friends, has often been supplanted by intolerant rant .

It does seem to me that not that long ago, those with limited command of the english language , or technical savvy were assisted and not belittled.

But I guess that is where the anonymity of the internet and a few uptight participants are probably taking us.

Dont get me wrong , I still enjoy being part of this forum and while I do not frequently participate.. because I know there is someone out there who knows vastly more than I could ever know, it would be nice if some people were a bit nicer to those less knowledgeable than themselves.

My sincere thanks does go out to those helpful participants.

Jay

I'd like to second JZ comments. 

I consider myself an avid forum reader. My contribution is negligible, mostly because many are far more experienced. I do hope to 'give back' in time. But coming back to your point i'm convinced many poster as myself are extremely grateful to the ones that take the time to contribute, explain and guide newbees.
 

so to all of them big thanks from france

Unfortunately it would seem to me that this forum has taken a huge step backwards in all areas since the changeover and is a shaddow of its former self. 

Naim have stated that the member numbers are going up but i contest the quality is way down, and seems a less friendly place.

Gary.

Just disconnect all your leads, give them a good shake and stick them all back in. That should sort your problem out. If not, spend another £10k on more black boxes.

Warm regards,   Stuart !

I have to admit that the Forum member are always very friendly and helpfull to others who do not have the same skills.

A big Thank You

urs

Agreed.  I'm not to bothered about the thanks, but it would be nice to know that my advice etc has been read.  Not just this forum.  Seems to be a feature of modern life.

I remember a couple of my former colleagues who used to "teach by humiliation".  They used to hate it when I suggested this was a BAD way of communicating knowledge.

I think that the forum only reflects a cross section of the society we have today.  Generally speaking, I find that peoples courtesy, patience and civility, for whatever reason, are far more lacking than that of even ten years ago.

That's not to say that everyone is less courteous or has less time for anyone (many here are most helpful and courteous with it), but I would suggest that it's more common now than ever.  

Possibly partly as a result of the compensation culture we seem to have become as a nation?  In my daily work I see so many have the attitude that if something goes wrong it's always someone elses fault and don't stop to consider that they too may have had a factor in things.  Then, even if they do think it could have been their fault, they're never going to be bold enough to admit it.  This with no consideration to the fact that maybe, just maybe it was an unavoidable incident where no one could have predicted the outcome  ie: life!

This sort of culture I'm sure filters down and taints peoples everyday common courtesy?

That said, it makes it that more refreshing when you do bump into an all round genuine nice person who has no agenda in life, and a decent courteous upbringing.

A bit outside forum I know, but as I say, with a free public forum, everyone has access to it, a true cross section of society as you would see on the local High Street. 

"There's always someone, somewhere, with a big nose, who knows - and who trips you up and laughs while you fall" Cemetery Gates, The Smiths 

I think it's just human nature. Further reading: Melanie Klein, Envy and Gratitude

Kind regards

Why is this not a padded cell topic?

Just out of interest.

In deference to the OP's wishes I have resisted moving this thread.

Until now...

"Until now..."

Richard,

What do you mean? 

Another forum I frequent has a "rec" feature (recommendation) that counts up as people find a post useful. The posts with a good number of rec's are usually the most useful/interesting/funny etc and is also a way of passing on thanks. Could be a useful addition to the forum ????

Tick here if you want to recommend this post   [O]

David,

What I mean is that I respected the OP's wishes to keep the thread in the Hifi Corner.  At the point I felt it appropriate to move to the Padded Cell, I did so.

+1

Hi Richard,

I'm so dozy I didn't notice it had moved!

This doesn't concur with my observation. I increasingly find people to be friendly and pleasant (except when they are behind the wheel of their cars, but that's a whole different story). I find my professional environment, my community and the world in general (as I experience it personally) increasingly pleasant places to be (except for motor traffic).

Thanks Richard, appreciated, and now appropriate for Rubber Room.

My original wishes for it being in HiFi Corner is that that is where the 'phenomenon' is mainly to be found, in my experience.

If the standard of manners on any forum does not meet your expectations - go elsewhere or modify your expectations. It is a forum on the internet not a face to face "book club" type event.

This is not "any" forum. This is the Naim forum.

I believe we can, and should, encourage good maners and aspire to the sort of expectation in a face to face Naim club.

Cheers

Don

Hi Winky,

I'm genuinly pleased to hear that you have a different experience where you live, but then you do live in a fantastic country!  Not to say England isn't, I don't wish to dig holes here because England has some wonderful merits too, but places and people do differ.  I also may have a slightly tainted view of society due to the many people I tend to come into contact with at work, who I normally don't get to see at their best and most friendly times! Retirement to Canada is looking favourable!!

Jason,

I spend part of my time in BC (two or three times a year to visit my daughter).

IMHO, life in Canada in general is better than in the UK.

However, Canada isn't perfect, and the UK isn't all bad.

Variations between individuals, is far greater IMHO, than the general difference between two nations.

Cheers

Don

Having moved to Canada in 1966 after living in England for 10 years, I would have to agree with you Don. The cost of living is definitely lower here and quality of life is generally high. Our public health system is not as good as yours, and our pubs are few and far between. The country is h u g e and the climate extremes are... extreme ! If you like the great outdoors, you're well served and our national parks are stunning. People and cultures vary a lot from province to province, but Canadians are generally known for being nice, eh !

Jan 

who plans to stay here when retired.