Yosemite and internet connection

Posted by: Southweststokie on 03 February 2015

Since upgrading from Maverick to Yosemite on my MacBook Pro when I leave the laptop with the lid closed for a while and come back to it I find the internet connection has dropped out and I can only recover it by restarting the laptop.

 

Has anyone else experienced this problem or have some settings in my preferences changed unknowingly during the upgrade and thereby causing this, It happens 4 or 5 times a day.

 

Does anyone have any advice,

 

Ken

Posted on: 03 February 2015 by Steve2

Ken!

 

If you visit the Ars Technica website they have an article on this very problem.  Apple have issued a patch to sort this out recently - 10.10.2.

 

Hope this helps.

 

SteveT

Posted on: 03 February 2015 by Southweststokie
Originally Posted by Steve2:

Ken!

 

If you visit the Ars Technica website they have an article on this very problem.  Apple have issued a patch to sort this out recently - 10.10.2.

 

Hope this helps.

 

SteveT

Thanks Steve I will check it out.

 

Ken

Posted on: 03 February 2015 by Southweststokie
Originally Posted by Steve2:

Ken!

 

If you visit the Ars Technica website they have an article on this very problem.  Apple have issued a patch to sort this out recently - 10.10.2.

 

Hope this helps.

 

SteveT

Update 10.10.2 was downloaded yesterday but the problem still exists together with web pages loading slowly.

 

Ken

Posted on: 03 February 2015 by RaceTripper

Networking is broken in many ways with Yosemite. There are articles about it, and discussion in the Apple Community forums.

 

I've been a Mac user since the 80s and I've never seen software QA this poor. Yosemite is a disaster – IMHO – and never should have been released in it's current state. Wifi is flakey and BTMM is broken. I've been using these for years but with Yosemite I no longer can. Wifi seems a little better with 10.10.2, but BTMM doesn't not work. iOS is also the worst iOS release I have experienced. I think when Steve Jobs died he took the Reality Distortion Field with him because "It just Works" is now "It's Just Plain Broken"

 

I was pretty excited about the Apple Watch, but now I believe quality has gotten so bad I've abandoned my plans to get one.

Posted on: 03 February 2015 by NickSeattle

Five Macs here, all running Yoseite without issues I know of.  Oldest is a MBPro, delivered running Tiger 10.4.

 

Old hands will remember repairing disc permissions used to be recommened before and after every installlation of anything.  I still do that.

 

The only unreliability I have experienced has been due to failing hard drives.

 

Good luck.

 

Nick

Posted on: 03 February 2015 by NickSeattle

That said, I just experienced your Internet issue on my MBAir -- first time!

 

Updating now.

 

Nick

Posted on: 04 February 2015 by Southweststokie

Is it possible to remove Yosemite and go back to Maverick or will there be other pitfalls associated with doing that?

Posted on: 04 February 2015 by the_third_mind

Good Morning All,

 

Yosemite wifi issues continue here too.

 

My simple workaround, stable since beginning of December is 'System Prefs -> Network -> Locations -> New Location'.

 

Richard

Posted on: 04 February 2015 by Southweststokie
Originally Posted by the_third_mind:

Good Morning All,

 

Yosemite wifi issues continue here too.

 

My simple workaround, stable since beginning of December is 'System Prefs -> Network -> Locations -> New Location'.

 

Richard

Richard,

 

Are you advising that I just create a new location of any description and select that rather than leaving 'Locations' selected to 'Automatic'?

 

Regards,

 

Ken

Posted on: 04 February 2015 by Goon525

I'm also finding my iMac Internet connection is dropping out quite a lot, although wifi is showing is still connected, and other devices can access the Internet. As far as I know, I'm running latest version of Yosemite. My short term cure is just turning wifi off on the iMac, and then turning it straight back on. Then it seems to be ok for a while.

Posted on: 04 February 2015 by the_third_mind

Hi Ken,

 

Yes, it has been that simple, thank goodness. I am not confident at terminal work so was relieved this worked. 

 

I repaired red permissions yesterday to see if that fixed it and it did not, so I reverted to the simple fix.

 

hope it will work for you.

 

BW

 

richard

Posted on: 04 February 2015 by the_third_mind

Ken,

 

'red' was a predictive typo and should have read 'the'.

 

Richard

Posted on: 05 February 2015 by NickSeattle
Originally Posted by the_third_mind:

Hi Ken,

 

Yes, it has been that simple, thank goodness. I am not confident at terminal work so was relieved this worked. 

 

I repaired red permissions yesterday to see if that fixed it and it did not, so I reverted to the simple fix.

 

hope it will work for you.

 

BW

 

richard

Richard has a good suggestion.  I have had corrupted location profiles in the past.  No one version of the Mac OS seems more or less prone, IME.  But any version upgrade gone a bit wrong is a potential trigger.  

 

Try creating two or three Locations to precisely control what is happening; save Automatic for when you hand the laptop over to someone else to take it God-knows-where.  Delete the corrupted Locations after you have other, good ones working the way you want.

 

Nick

 

Posted on: 05 February 2015 by GregW
Originally Posted by RaceTripper:

I've been a Mac user since the 80s and I've never seen software QA this poor. Yosemite is a disaster – IMHO – and never should have been released in it's current state. Wifi is flakey and BTMM is broken. I've been using these for years but with Yosemite I no longer can. Wifi seems a little better with 10.10.2, but BTMM doesn't not work. iOS is also the worst iOS release I have experienced.

I think the reality distortion field of rose tinted spectacles is kicking in here because you clearly don't remember OS X 10.0-10.2 which were unusable. 10.3 was barely useable. It wasn't until we got 10.4 that you could use OS X on a daily basis. Personally I'd take 10.10 over anything below 10.6.

Posted on: 09 February 2015 by TomK

Buy a PC.

Posted on: 09 February 2015 by RaceTripper
Originally Posted by TomK:

Buy a PC.

Reasonable advice, as long as you do not run Windows on it.

Posted on: 09 February 2015 by Peter Dinh
Originally Posted by Southweststokie:

Since upgrading from Maverick to Yosemite on my MacBook Pro when I leave the laptop with the lid closed for a while and come back to it I find the internet connection has dropped out and I can only recover it by restarting the laptop.

 

Has anyone else experienced this problem or have some settings in my preferences changed unknowingly during the upgrade and thereby causing this, It happens 4 or 5 times a day.

 

Does anyone have any advice,

 

Ken

Something is very wrong with your MacBook? I suggest that you take your MacBook to an Apple Store for a checkup. Mac OS is Unix and it is designed to run for years without rebooting unless you upgrade the kernel itself.

Posted on: 09 February 2015 by Bananahead
Originally Posted by Peter Dinh:
Originally Posted by Southweststokie:

Since upgrading from Maverick to Yosemite on my MacBook Pro when I leave the laptop with the lid closed for a while and come back to it I find the internet connection has dropped out and I can only recover it by restarting the laptop.

 

Has anyone else experienced this problem or have some settings in my preferences changed unknowingly during the upgrade and thereby causing this, It happens 4 or 5 times a day.

 

Does anyone have any advice,

 

Ken

Something is very wrong with your MacBook? I suggest that you take your MacBook to an Apple Store for a checkup. Mac OS is Unix and it is designed to run for years without rebooting unless you upgrade the kernel itself.

He is not suggesting that the kernel has failed. Just that the network interface has failed.

 

It would be helpful if you explained how to kill and restart the services for this without doing a reboot.

Posted on: 09 February 2015 by Peter Dinh
Originally Posted by Bananahead:
Originally Posted by Peter Dinh:
Originally Posted by Southweststokie:

Since upgrading from Maverick to Yosemite on my MacBook Pro when I leave the laptop with the lid closed for a while and come back to it I find the internet connection has dropped out and I can only recover it by restarting the laptop.

 

Has anyone else experienced this problem or have some settings in my preferences changed unknowingly during the upgrade and thereby causing this, It happens 4 or 5 times a day.

 

Does anyone have any advice,

 

Ken

Something is very wrong with your MacBook? I suggest that you take your MacBook to an Apple Store for a checkup. Mac OS is Unix and it is designed to run for years without rebooting unless you upgrade the kernel itself.

He is not suggesting that the kernel has failed. Just that the network interface has failed.

 

It would be helpful if you explained how to kill and restart the services for this without doing a reboot.

What I really said is that you do not need to reboot a Mac, you only need to do it if you get a kernel / OS update from Apple, and it is very strange that the networking software layer fails 3 or 4 times a day.

 

Anyway, if you want to restart the networking on the Mac, do the followings in the Terminal window:

 

<code>
sudo ifconfig en0 down sudo ifconfig en0 up
</code>


Posted on: 10 February 2015 by Southweststokie
Originally Posted by Peter Dinh:
Originally Posted by Bananahead:
Originally Posted by Peter Dinh:
Originally Posted by Southweststokie:

Since upgrading from Maverick to Yosemite on my MacBook Pro when I leave the laptop with the lid closed for a while and come back to it I find the internet connection has dropped out and I can only recover it by restarting the laptop.

 

Has anyone else experienced this problem or have some settings in my preferences changed unknowingly during the upgrade and thereby causing this, It happens 4 or 5 times a day.

 

Does anyone have any advice,

 

Ken

Something is very wrong with your MacBook? I suggest that you take your MacBook to an Apple Store for a checkup. Mac OS is Unix and it is designed to run for years without rebooting unless you upgrade the kernel itself.

He is not suggesting that the kernel has failed. Just that the network interface has failed.

 

It would be helpful if you explained how to kill and restart the services for this without doing a reboot.

What I really said is that you do not need to reboot a Mac, you only need to do it if you get a kernel / OS update from Apple, and it is very strange that the networking software layer fails 3 or 4 times a day.

 

Anyway, if you want to restart the networking on the Mac, do the followings in the Terminal window:

 

<code>
sudo ifconfig en0 down sudo ifconfig en0 up
</code>


Since the simple work around advised by 'the_third-mind' the issue seems to have calmed down and I have only lost internet connection couple of times over the past few days though some web page still take an age to load

Posted on: 10 February 2015 by analogmusic

Nothing wrong with windows or OS X yosemite

 

Never experienced these internet issues on my mac laptops (have 2)

 

you guys must be doing something wrong.

Posted on: 10 February 2015 by analogmusic

buy a new router 

Posted on: 10 February 2015 by RaceTripper
Originally Posted by analogmusic:

Nothing wrong with windows or OS X yosemite

 

Never experienced these internet issues on my mac laptops (have 2)

 

you guys must be doing something wrong.

The old "works for me so it has to be user error" syndrome.

 

You might not use yours in a way that exposes the problems other people experience, but the networking issues are not imagined. Apple changed the networking infrastructure in Yosemite and it broke several things for many people. I have yet to be able to use Back To My Mac for remote desktop since it was released.

Posted on: 10 February 2015 by Southweststokie
Originally Posted by analogmusic:

Nothing wrong with windows or OS X yosemite

 

Never experienced these internet issues on my mac laptops (have 2)

 

you guys must be doing something wrong.

How can I be doing something wrong when all I have done is download the new Yosemite OS upgrade and hey presto all the problems started? I have not changed any settings on my Macbook.

Posted on: 10 February 2015 by RaceTripper
Originally Posted by Southweststokie:
Originally Posted by analogmusic:

Nothing wrong with windows or OS X yosemite

 

Never experienced these internet issues on my mac laptops (have 2)

 

you guys must be doing something wrong.

How can I be doing something wrong when all I have done is download the new Yosemite OS upgrade and hey presto all the problems started? I have not changed any settings on my Macbook.

You aren't doing anything wrong. Networking is still broken. I have issues similar to yours, as do many others. I work in a software development center and all of us who installed Yosemite now regret it because of networking and other issues. I only have a reliable internet connection while working if I stay wired to a ethernet connection.

 

For someone to state others (you or I) are doing something wrong because it works for them is ignorant.