Naim Ovators and surround music

Posted by: Percivale on 16 February 2015

Hello dear owners of Naim speakers

 

I have been thinking about the purchase of Naim Ovators s-400. I like them in stereo.

However, I have one big problem to solve.

 

I mostly listen to surround music with sacd 5.1 and dvd-a 5.1. Th rest (40%) of my listening is in stereo. You know that in surround music a center should blend in flawlessly with front speakers.

 

As you well know the problem with Ovators is the lack of any dedicated center speaker.

I have searched through a lot of threads in the forum but found no definite answer.

 

Is there any speaker that could play the role of the center and could go along with Ovators s-400? Or I should give up the idea of building a surround set up with Ovators.

 

I will be very grateful for any help and comment.

Best Regards

Posted on: 16 February 2015 by DavidDever

Two points:

  1. Naim does not presently manufacture center-channel loudspeakers, and has never manufactured a BMR-driver center-channel loudspeaker, but
  2. A professional 5.1 monitoring setup will typically use five identical loudspeakers, i.e., there is no center-channel type; all of the loudspeakers are the same. You could use five S-400s to achieve this end.

If, on the other hand, you are looking for a home-theater setup with a potentially compromised center-channel design, there are probably plenty of manufacturers out there that will oblige.

Posted on: 16 February 2015 by Percivale

Thank You David for Your answer.

I realise that professional and optimal set up dedicated mainly to audiophile suround music should consist of the five same speakers.

This option is very expensive and for me not affordable.

 

I only thought, that perhaphs by some miracle there is a center speaker which could go along with Ovators.

Probably I made a stupid assumption and shouldn't look for anything like that. 

Posted on: 17 February 2015 by Mr Underhill

Percivale,

 

You could always be lucky.

 

My main speakers for a few years now have been Living Voice, and bloody marvellous they are, but they were not voiced the same as my Art Skibo Centre. I lived with a Skibo for a fair few years and 7 months ago took a punt on a Audio Physic Centre. I did this expecting it to be a step up, and I liked the idea that it had forward rather than backward facing ports. It is undoubtedly better than the Skibo, but by some miracle it is also tonally the same as my main speakers.

 

When I bought the Audio Physic I did so on the basis that I could return it. If you are willing to put in some effort you might also be lucky.

 

M

Posted on: 17 February 2015 by Percivale

I haven't bought Ovators yet. But bearing in mind their unique BMR-driver it would be much more difficult to find something to match with them

 

I don't  know the price of Living Voice, but perhaps it will be a better idea for me to look for a complete set up made from Audio Physic loudspeakers or B&W series.

 

It's a pity that Naim hasn't thought about making loudspeakers for audiophile surround music.

Posted on: 17 February 2015 by Dungassin

OK.  To match a Centre Speaker to your front stereo speakers :

 

Select a stereo amplifier with MONO and BALANCE controls at your dealer.   Connect an Ovator to one channel, and your choice of Centre Speaker to the other.  Thus you will be using them as Stereo pair.

 

Play some music - use either a mono source, or just press the MONO button on the amplifier.

 

Switch between left and right speakers to hear if the Ovator and Centre Speaker are tonally matched.  Repeat until you find a Centre Speaker you think suitable.

 

I've given this advice several times already on these forums, BTW.  Perhaps I should format it as a FAQ, although I wonder how many people bother to look at the FAQ section before posting a query.

Posted on: 18 February 2015 by Mr Underhill

Dungassin

 

Quiet right ...but, most dealers stock a limited catalogue of makes, for various reasons. The last time I bought a pair of speakers I ended up getting various makes from various dealers, and paid postage. Pure luck that I chanced on Kevin and Living Voice.

 

M

Posted on: 18 February 2015 by Dungassin

When I did it, I was using Royd Edens as fronts, Royd A7s as rears, with a Rega Vulcan Sub.  I just took one of the Edens to a local dealer, and finished up buying a B&W CC3.

 

I realise the OP doesn't already own the Ovators, so that makes life a little more difficult.  Alas his profile doesn't tell us where he is, so it's difficult to suggest a local dealer for him.

Posted on: 20 February 2015 by Percivale

Thank You all for valuable comments.

I concluded that  - due to unique characteristic of Ovators - looking for a suitable center would be like looking for a needle in a haystack.

Posted on: 08 March 2015 by b_lund

one Cambridge Aero

Posted on: 08 March 2015 by Dungassin

You could try running without a centre speaker.  That works reasonably well as long as your listening position is about midway between the 2 fronts.