Mu-so with synology NAS

Cannot answer your first question. I purchased my MU-SO before Xmas and the remote markings are fine. My complaint about the remote is the quality. It's a piece of cheap plastic and the volume control is very hit and miss. The sound quality of the MU-SO is great.

Your Muso can play music from a NAS. The two devices must be connected to the same network, not directly to each other. Connect both of them directly to your router, or better still, to a switch. Alternatively, the Muso could connect over wifi, and with a good, stable network, can still play lossless, but wired ethernet usually gives a more reliable connection.

Not sure as I haven't tested, but you may be able to connect the MUSO directly to your NAS using an ethernet cross over cable.  Another option is via any ethernet hub. Connect the NAS to one port, connect the MUSO to another.

My experience with hi res over wireless - on MUSO and other network players - is that its very picky about the network and signal strength.

Hello,

Newbie to Naim here, but experienced in networking and security. 

What I see is that most of Naim's product support older radio technology: 801.11b/g or some have a single 801.11n.  They haven't gone to 802.11ac or an easier solution would be 801.11n MIMO, where you have 3 radios working in conjunction, much like the latest generation gaming consoles.

In my opinion, the best way to get around this is to setup a bridge and use either two "N" MIMO AP's or better yet two AC AP's.  Sure, it is not as cheap as a wire, but in my experience it can be just as stable.

- Roger

Hello thanks for all your advice, @ Roger, would that be able to stream lossless with the setup you described, I don't understand it but will google it all to learn. 

I seem to have problem just streaming from spotify, even music that I have downloaded to my phone so should not need Internet, (I have very slow internet, 2.5meg on a good day) just my local wifi, is that correct? 

Thanks again.

Yes, you run two Access Points in Bridge Mode - what this means is that these two devices communicate only with each other to "bridge" a gap in the wire. If you go with 802.11ac routers you can easily match the 1GB switch capacity of most home routers and switches available today.  This has nothing to do with your internet connection - you are basically replacing a cable with a wireless connection between two points. It will be cheaper to go with 802.11n routers and for stable 2.5mb connection it will work fine. Just make sure they have 3 antennas each and MIMO (Multi-In, Multi-Out) support - still overkill for audio, but works fine for HD 1080p video.

You have to make sure your AP's can run in bridge mode - not all can.  Basically, in a bridge, you hook one end up to your router or switch then on the other one, run a switch off of that to plug in your equipment.

Also investigate Relay mode - where you have one AP relaying information to another. I've run one of those before as well, but my results were poor. 

As I have Meraki AP's I can also run in Mesh mode (others can do it too) which will provide whole house / office building coverage of equal strength.  It is kind of like both a bridge and a relay since not all of these AP's need to be hardwired into the network.

That brings us to the downside of bridge mode is that you have two AP's running in a bridge, they do not expand your wifi coverage.  To get that, you would have to plug in another AP to the bridged AP at the remote location.

Hope that helps - happy networking

- Roger

The amount of data involved in lossless (CD quality) streaming is really quite small, and well within the ability of a bog standard home network, wired or wireless. If you're having problems, it's almost certainly a network configuration issue, nothing to do with data capacity. If your devices are close enough together to allow it, connecting them to your network with ordinary, cheap Cat5e ethernet cable should work fine.

I don't understand why you might want to connect the NAS and Muso only to each other. Both of them connect to the internet for a variety of reasons, so they'll want to be connected to your router.

Hello, thanks for the great explanation, being looking at what you said, do you have the Meraki MR18, do you need a licence to use these? Just something I read. Do you know the cheapest place to get some, see they are expensive but still cheaper than running cables cleanly. So am I correct in saying you can do the same with two wireless routers, I have a netgear R7000, which I belive is MIMO.....I will have to login to the router and see if it mentions anything about bridge mode. 

Cheers

One other question �� you said the downside they do not expand the wifi, will the original one still output wifi or will the original R7000 router will no longer output wifi around the home, just straight to the second bridge?

thanks again.

1st. as ChrisSU said, all home networks should be able to push 2.5MB/s. This is not a lot of bandwidth, considering you can get switch with 1GB ports for $20. You may just need a better wireless network quality and you can get that by adding a good AP and tweaking your QoS to give priority to local traffic.

2nd. Don't get Meraki, they are way to expensive for home use, unless you are someone who can get them at the employee discount and even then, they are expensive.

3rd. Doing a bridge just for NAS to Naim is overkill.  I've done it in the past because I lived in a cement apartment building where I could not drill holes through floors so I plugged in my cable box, my two gaming consoles, and an Access Point for the upper floor - and I could hide all the wires in my entertainment center.

- Roger

They way I've set them up in the past is that I have my house wifi, then to create a bridge, I bought two more AP, one I plugged into my main router, the other end was in my entertainment center and I plugged in a switch to that. This is because in the mode I setup up I just wanted them connected to each other. 

Now, I haven't done this in a while, so I am unsure if the newer gear will do a "hybrid" mode where they can service a bridge and clients.  As the boxes with multiple radios are now more common, it could be possible to setup the bridge with the 5.0 radios and service clients with the 2.4, but I haven't checked lately.

Problem is bridges block UPnP discovery. You will have to enter all devices manually.