Invisible folders

Posted by: DodgeyRodge on 09 March 2015

Setup

Naim Unitilite using wireless connection (Wired is out of the question)

NetGear ReadyNAS 102 containing 2 x 2TB WD Red drives (This is the main preferred NAS)

SeaGate 2TB Central NAS (This will be a backup once all's up and working)

Both NAS drives connected to the same router (Virgin Media Super Hub)

 

Hello All,

Have had this system for a few months now, and all seemed to be working fine, however …

Over the weekend I noticed that there are various “artist folders” that seem to be completely invisible to either the app or the front panel !

I can see the folders via windows explorer and the RAIDar software and can inspect the IDTags and play the individual flac files via foobar for example but browse by folder or searching for artist or track doesn’t find anything. It’s as though the folder itself is just not there.

I’ve compared tracks in the invisible folders to others that show up OK and cannot see anything different.

I’ve rebooted the NAS drive and switched the Unitilite off and on.

There’s nothing different, as far as I am aware, that I’ve done in the process of ripping the CDs between visible and invisible folders.

Does this make any sense to anyone ?

All suggestions gratefully received

Posted on: 09 March 2015 by Bananahead

Have you tried renaming the folders to make sure that they don't have special characters in them?

Posted on: 09 March 2015 by Bart
Originally Posted by Bananahead:

Have you tried renaming the folders to make sure that they don't have special characters in them?

+1  A folder naming issue is the first place I'd look.

Posted on: 10 March 2015 by Bruce Woodhouse

Although the media server programme that runs on my Netgear (bundled with the NAS) says it updates continuously I find I have to request a manual scan after adding new music to ensure that it becomes visible sometimes. Try this if you have that option in your server software?

 

Bruce

Posted on: 10 March 2015 by DodgeyRodge

Thanks for your replies everyone. Further to Bananaheads suggestion, I started to “rename” the invisible folders last night, none of the names looked like they contained “odd” characters. What I did was, via windows explorer, double clicked the folder name, copied the folder name to the clipboard, renamed it so a single character, then double clicked the folder name again and pasted the folder name from the clipboard. So there was a rename from folder name to “a” for example but then that was immediately overwritten with the original name.

This had the desired affect ! and also allowed the album artwork to show up via the apps “browse folders” option, which I hadn’t seen before but was on my list of queries to get sorted.

As I’ve spent many evenings now over the past 3+ months ripping all of my CDs and didn’t want to manually trawl through the folders trying to identify all of the “invisible” folders to then manually do the above “rename” I got a vb script together to do the “rename” automatically but couldn’t be ars3d running it through late last night.

During the night, I know, sad b*stard, I thought why not try “renaming” the flac folder and see what affect that would have. The folder structure is as follows

Music

    flac

        Artist#1

          Album#1

          Track#1

          Track#2

             etc

          Album#2

          Track#1

          Track#2

          etc

        Artist#2

          Album#1

          Track#1

          Track#2

          etc

So I tried that this morning, doh, this initially had the effect of only showing a small %’age of the actual folders. I then realised that my phone screen saver may have kicked in and “interfered” with the app resyncing, so I changed it so that the screen saver didn’t kick in at all and “renamed” the flac folder again and prodded the phone every now and then to keep everything alive, to be sure, to be sure.

This looked like the full list of folders is now available but didn’t unfortunately allow all of the album artwork to show as desired.

I am going to carry on and test out the vb script and see what effect that has.

Does any of this make sense to anyone and does anyone KNOW exactly how this all fits together and can explain that to me in layman’s terms

What I also don’t understand is the relationship between the app and the front panel as after the initial “flac rename” this morning and I could see only a small %’age of the actual folders via the app I didn’t expect to see exactly the same, incorrect, list of folders on the front panel via the remote. The reasoning behind that being that possibly some people are using a similar setup without any app ?

Also, Bruce, as you’ve likely detected I’m a complete noob, could you let me know exactly how and where you kick off your manual scan and I’ll try and relate that to my setup. It seems to me there’s some sort of syncing required but I haven’t a clue what/where I should be targeting

Many thanks once again everyone

Posted on: 10 March 2015 by Bananahead

Glad you are geting it sorted. Welcome to the joys of file names and tagging.

 

I run two media servers on my NAS. The Synology server seems to stay up to date but Minim needs a forced rescan. Not too challenging because my NAS powers off overnight so gets refreshed every morning.

Posted on: 10 March 2015 by Bruce Woodhouse

What NAS and what media server are you running?

 

Somewhere in the software set up will be a rescan folders option I am sure. Mind you if the effects of the tweaking you did yesterday showed up straight away then I guess that shows it is continuously updating OK anyway.

 

bruce