We want TIDAL!

"HQ-streaming to the Naim-People!"

Lol, now you are talking

That's the one 

"You gotta fight for your right - to paaarty" ;-)

I had Spotify Premium too for the last months. But I lost interest...

At last, producers of hi-end-equipment like Linn and Naim have to integrate HQ-streaming into their devices, for reasons of sheer competitiveness... There are a lot of high-priced hifi-companies out there...

This again, tried all of them, no (hifi) streamer in setup, they all work, some better than others, Qobuz is best.  Party on with your spotify dudes.

Deezer Elite working nicely here.

G

I currently stream Tidal via a Sonos Connect to my nDAC, which isn't bad at all, but not quite as good SQ as the direct feed from my unitiserve.   So I plan to add in a Mutec reclocker.

Why on earth does the OP, assuming to speak for all of us, determine that we all want a currently inferior service? For those of us who listen to at least some classical music (not, I'm taking a wild guess, the OP, given the characteristics he's demonstrated to date), Tidal is significantly inferior to Qobuz - for reasons I, and others, have stated here on a number of occasions. Having said all that, Tidal would be better than nothing as a lossless service.

I can see why people want a lossless streaming service when they are available elsewhere and that is slightly annoying . However , even when it arrives , lossless streaming is still a distant second to the quality of vinyl . We have all this technology , it's easier to access and a huge choice but a bit lifeless . I think we are just trying to recover from the advent of the CD which was great for the profits of the record companies but not that good for quality .  

Sorry, much as I've tried I cannot see how you can possibly deduce that the OP doesn't listen to classical music from his postings. Or is it some sort of snobbery? Surely not...

Anyway, the OP makes a light-hearted posting and folk get themselves in a bit of a lather over it. It'd be nice to have better quality streaming sources available for those lucky enough to have decent broadband. 

OK, Tony, maybe a hint of snobbery. But my evidence - he wouldn't be crying out for Tidal if he listened to classical, because it simply doesn't work properly.

Is that because Tidal doesn't have the range of classical on offer compared with Q- whatsit?

It seems to me this is quickly going to be come very competitive with other players coming onto the market. There'll need to be some different thinking on this so we have access to the choices available.

Tony

No, it's not about range. I haven't actually audited Tidal v Qobuz (nor yet tried Deezer) to make the comparison. It's about two things:-

• Tidal do not offer gapless playback (though they have been working on it for a long time). The significance of this is that a gap of several seconds is inserted between each track. This is relatively unimportant if you're listening to a succession of songs, but ruinous if you're listening to a classical piece which should play continuously but which has some separate tracks for ease of access. Qobuz do offer gapless.
• Tidal do not offer access to CD booklets - really helpful if you want to read notes, libretti etc. Qobuz do, at least for more recent releases. Not as important as gapless, but still very nice to have.

Paul

Oh dear, no gapless! That's pretty hopeless then.

Why do people keep filling the forum with 'we want (insert streaming service here)?  Naim have said on more than one occasion that they are working on integrating other services into their streamers.  Yes, it would be lovely if it were today, tomorrow, next week, or even if we had them now.  I'm sure, as Paul has said, that they are working to make the integration as seamless as possible, so can we just let them get on with it and stop badgering them about it?

It'd be very nice to have CD quality streaming service(s) integrated in our Naim NPs. But considering geographical limitations of  those sevices I understand hesitancy of Naim to wait  a little more for all that dust to settle down. Choosing Spotify was a wise decision. Not in terms of SQ but for global outreach. Here in Hong Kong I do not have Tidal, Qobuz or Deezer. And  even no dim light at the end of tunnel. If you have those services available in your countries then good for you. It's easy to find a workaround. 

Tonym wrote:

"Sorry, much as I've tried I cannot see how you can possibly deduce that the OP doesn't listen to classical music from his postings. Or is it some sort of snobbery? Surely not...

Anyway, the OP makes a light-hearted posting and folk get themselves in a bit of a lather over it. It'd be nice to have better quality streaming sources available for those lucky enough to have decent broadband."

I completely agree, Tony. I don't understand why some people have taken offence to a fairly light-hearted post by the OP. I am sure he did not really mean to claim to have the authority to speak for everyone.

It would indeed be welcomed (certainly by me) if Naim were to forge links with a number of streaming services (including, but not necessarily, Tidal). I have recently had the opportunity to listen to alternatives such as Auralic, which already offer integrated access to Spotify, Tidal and Qobuz. 

To those who have stated "we don't want Tidal, or for that matter any other streaming service, then fine - that's your choice. I would be very surprised indeed if Naim were to force you to use the service.

I personally quite like Spotify Premium, because it allows me to track down and listen to music (for possible future purchase at a higher resolution) that I would otherwise never have encountered, and for a very reasonable cost. The sound quality is on a par with the likes of Radio Paradise (320kbs) or Linn Radio, so is not of an unlistenable quality (in my opinion).

I would however prefer to use a higher resolution service (Qobus or Tidal) if it was available.

That's not so shocking or offensive - surely? 

Neither was the plea from the OP for Naim to integrate such a service into its streaming devices.  

Pride and prejudice, or what? Remember, your fantasies about other peoples lifes always tell something about yourself...

FYI: Recently listend to Gavin Bryars "Jesus Blood Never Failed Me Yet". Considered as Minimal Music, which is - modern classical music...

Yes, you're right, I should withdraw my inference. And yes, Gavin Bryars is pretty borderline! It's just that, like some others here, I felt you had unreasonably assumed you spoke for us all. I'm guessing you might be in the States, where Qobuz is not yet on offer - so your plea for Tidal is not wholly unreasonable!

And what about MQA over Tidal?

It's going to be very interesting to see whether MQA gains any traction with steaming suppliers, beyond the Naxos owned one. Given that it requires new hardware to gain real SQ benefits, my suspicion is not much will happen in the short term.

Qobuz still not available in the US. That could be one MAJOR reason to want access to Tidal instead. Personally since I went streaming and now have over 1300 cd's on my server I feel a bit like I have my own streaming service and discover new things everyday that I didn't even know I had (esp with Jriver on shuffle in the office - I wish Naim could get their shuffle working properly)! 

+1

Spotify sounds crappy, Qobuz rocks!

Give us Qobuz Naim.

Bobby

Give us both! Where is the problem?