We Want Naim's Parent Company to also Purchase Sonos

Posted by: Kevin Richardson on 17 March 2015

They need to acquire Sonos and then have n-Stream embedded into the Sonos application.  Also, have Naim produce a high end version of the Connect.

 

Yes… I am speaking for everybody who ever read and/or posted on this forum.  It is for your own good that I've taken this liberty.

Posted on: 17 March 2015 by Jason

......gets my vote! 

Posted on: 17 March 2015 by hungryhalibut
While they are at it, I'd like a link up with the Wine Society, with wine on demand streamed direct to our dining room.
Posted on: 17 March 2015 by hafler3o

I know I speak for everyone when I ask "What exactly is a Sonos?"

Posted on: 17 March 2015 by Steve J

What's n-Stream? 

Posted on: 17 March 2015 by adca

@Hungryhalibut: There already exists a user friendly solution called USB  wine. Could be integrated into the  USB port of the Uniti range.

 

Posted on: 17 March 2015 by GregW

With 2013 revenue of USD 535m, and 2014 rumoured to be even better, it would take a company the size of Google or Apple to buy Sonos. The company sold some secondary stock at the end of last year allowing staff and early investors to cash in and reducing pressure on it to IPO. 

Posted on: 17 March 2015 by Clive B
Originally Posted by Steve J:

What's n-Stream? 

I can still show you on both my iPad and my iPhone!

 

So far I've managed to avoid the 'update all' option. 

Posted on: 17 March 2015 by mackb3
Originally Posted by GregW:

With 2013 revenue of USD 535m, and 2014 rumoured to be even better, it would take a company the size of Google or Apple to buy Sonos. The company sold some secondary stock at the end of last year allowing staff and early investors to cash in and reducing pressure on it to IPO. 

I eluded to this in another SONOS string a while back. SONOS has a pile of cash as Greg points out. If they ever deliver a HI-FI range product Katie bar the door in our little world. Hell the Connect is pretty damn close as it is with correct attention to detail.

Posted on: 17 March 2015 by andrew0810

Obviously, Sonos does things quite right...

Posted on: 17 March 2015 by Jan-Erik Nordoen
Originally Posted by adca:

@Hungryhalibut: There already exists a user friendly solution called USB  wine. Could be integrated into the  USB port of the Uniti range.

Révolutionnaire !

 

 

 

Posted on: 17 March 2015 by GregW

@mackb3 As you pointed out with the right mods people are getting very close to NDX/NDS level on CD quality material. It really wouldn't be that hard for Sonos to launch a hi-fi Connect.

 

Better clocks, a linear power supply, better physical connectors and 24-bit support. With Tidal launching an MQA service and Qobuz considering it, MQA support would also be nice. I'd happily pay USD 1000-1500 for that :-)

Posted on: 17 March 2015 by Harry

I'm not surprised they are doing so well. The software is superb. The whole implementation across hardware and software is unpretentious, devoid of frills, packed with services, and it just works. When they incorporate the ability to crunch at 24bit the curve is only going to get steeper.

Posted on: 18 March 2015 by Graham Clarke
Originally Posted by Kevin Richardson:

They need to acquire Sonos and then have n-Stream embedded into the Sonos application.  Also, have Naim produce a high end version of the Connect.

 

Yes… I am speaking for everybody who ever read and/or posted on this forum.  It is for your own good that I've taken this liberty.

So a company with £21M turnover is going to purchase a company with £300M+ turnover and a very different customer base?

 

If Naim's parent company were to consider such a move, I think Naim would be swallowed up and disappear.  Do you think an investment company would put much time and effort into it when they've got a company 15x the size to worry about?

 

It would be a terrible move for Naim.  You certainly don't speak for me in this regard

Posted on: 18 March 2015 by Graham Clarke
Originally Posted by Hungryhalibut:
While they are at it, I'd like a link up with the Wine Society, with wine on demand streamed direct to our dining room.

HH,

 

It needs to have a red/white selector to keep everyone happy.  Plus a CO2 injection capability so that it can make faux champagne.

 

Posted on: 18 March 2015 by Solid Air

Er . . . Focal & Co and their investors certainly could not buy Sonos. No VC would fund that. It would be like Morgan buying Mercedes.

 

Sonos could buy Naim pretty easily though. Basically that would be chump change for them, and actually not a bad idea if they want a halo brand. I'm guessing they have other plans though.

 

Posted on: 18 March 2015 by Mike-B
Originally Posted by Solid Air:

Er . . . Focal & Co and their investors certainly could not buy Sonos. No VC would fund that. It would be like Morgan buying Mercedes.

They posted $353 million in 2013

Posted on: 18 March 2015 by JSH

Could they buy HSBC too so we could borrow money to buy our Naims cheaper and so that HSBC pays its tax and doesn't sponge off the rest of us

 

(Interesting isn't it that some see the irony in the OP post (cf We Want Tidal - er not)) and others have taken it seriously!

Posted on: 18 March 2015 by Gianluigi Mazzorana
Originally Posted by Jan-Erik Nordoen:
Originally Posted by adca:

@Hungryhalibut: There already exists a user friendly solution called USB  wine. Could be integrated into the  USB port of the Uniti range.

Révolutionnaire !

 

 

 

 

I'm ruined.....

Posted on: 18 March 2015 by Harry
Originally Posted by JSH:

(Interesting isn't it that some see the irony in the OP

Like with a cheeky wink as opposed to self transiting bluster. Yeah, missed that completely. Good job you spotted it.

Posted on: 18 March 2015 by JSH

Er - I don't understand that Harry!!

"self transiting bluster"?  What's that when it's at home?

Posted on: 19 March 2015 by Solid Air

@Mike-B

If you're referring to Sonos revenues, it was reported as $535m in 2013. If a VC wants to buy Sonos then they'd just make an offer, they don't need Focal & Co.

 

Aside form the ironic OP, it's interesting to consider how Naim could develop. If they can build a super-high-end brand position with the likes of the Statement and the Bentley tie-in then a company like Sonos might see them as a takeover target. Sonos is sitting on a pile of cash and will want to IPO at some point, so it makes sense to extend the customer offer above the Sonos brand to the true high end. Naim or Linn could make great halo brands.

 

Posted on: 19 March 2015 by ashrafs

Naim would probably make us add power supplies and turn the Sonos 5 , from a one box to a 6 box system !

Posted on: 19 March 2015 by GregW

One example of an existing vertically integrated hi-fi company is the Lenbrook Group. Customers can start with a Bluesound system, move up to a NAD based system and eventually a NAD Masters with PSB speakers. Or they can mix and match according to their multiroom needs, because the units are compatible with one another. 

Posted on: 19 March 2015 by Harry
Originally Posted by JSH:

Er - I don't understand that Harry!!

"self transiting bluster"?  What's that when it's at home?

I'm not surprised you don't understand it, given that it's gibberish! Auto correct gone bonkers. Self aggrandising - is what I typed. Originally. Before I hit submit without reading it back.

Posted on: 20 March 2015 by JSH
 
Originally Posted by JSH:

Er - I don't understand that Harry!!

"self transiting bluster"?  What's that when it's at home?

I'm not surprised you don't understand it, given that it's gibberish! Auto correct gone bonkers. Self aggrandising - is what I typed. Originally. Before I hit submit without reading it back.

Thanks for explaining it, Harry.  Thought I was going bonkers.  Like the irony too!