How do I send my Synology to sleep?
Posted by: hungryhalibut on 30 March 2015
I have a Synology 213j, which for the moment lives in the sitting room with the hifi. A while ago, the hard drives used to power down when not in use, so that it was silent. For some reason this has stopped happening and the fan whirring and the occasional clonk are quite irritating.
I've set HDD hibernation, but it stays wide awake, whirring away. The long term aim is to move it to the cupboard under the stairs, but that is a few months away. For now, how can I make it sleep?
Thanks.
Hi HH,
May be worth checking that:
1. In updating the DSM etc your hibernation settings have not been changed. (Expect you have done that already)
2. You do not have any other devices accessing the NAS. As I understand the process and I may well be wrong if you have any PCs etc that map/connect to the NAS and they are "on" then the NAS will not hibernate. Also switching one of the devices on will also wake up the NAS.
Happy to be told I'm wrong or on the wrong track - all info improves my understanding.
Regards
Dave
The entire time my Synology and uServe were on the network at the same time, the Synology NEVER slept. Now that my uServe is off for service, the Synology will go to sleep if I've not used my Mac for some hours. I think that even just having the Mac "on" will have OS X Finder browse to the Synology such that it revs up.
In contrast, my QNAP seems to be much more sleepy and is happier staying asleep even if the Mac is up and running. (Observational only; no real data.)
Mine woke up each time I started my PC, I found the Win Media Player was saying "Hi" to the network. I cut of the Media Player's access to my PC network sharing, in fact I stopped any & all unnecessary items - including Mrs Mike - sharing my network & it now sleeps peacefully.
In order for a NAS to function it needs to be able to wake on LAN. This means that when it gets poled by something say a Serve it will wake to facilitate that, this is important because otherwise how you wake it up?
The best bet for NASes and servers in general is that they are available, so getting it out of the sitting rooms is your best bet.
Hi garyi, so whats happening when I stopped all my network sharing stuff - asking nicely, not disagreeing.
My NAS will wake up only when I open the UPnP (NAS) icon on the Naim app, or if I open the NAS (Synology) webpage or open the NAS in Windows Explorer on my PC.
Play lullabys?
Mike,
I believe you have a switch in the system?
In that case, only directly targeted net traffic, broadcast and possibly all multicast traffic will get to the NAS. It's probably programmed to ignore broadcast traffic for waking the disks. As a result it only wakes when asked for data (including directory searches) or status.
When you stopped network sharing the computers stopped asking it for status.
Simon and Gary could probably list the messages concerned, I don't have that level of knowledge.
Mike, I believe you have a switch in the system?
The only way for a real network Huge -
But (I believe) so has HH
In that case, only directly targeted net traffic, broadcast and possibly all multicast traffic will get to the NAS. It's probably programmed to ignore broadcast traffic for waking the disks. As a result it only wakes when asked for data (including directory searches) or status.
When you stopped network sharing the computers stopped asking it for status.
.......... thats the way I understand it, hope garyi can chip in
Play lullabys?
or The Smiths!
Presumably you want the hard drives to spin down rather than the whole NAS to sleep? If in sleep mode then as Gari says a Wake On Lan command would be required to get it back up again.
I wonder if installing MinimServer has caused this and the NAS disks are receiving requests from Minim which is stopping them from powering down?
Richard
It's tricky to work out exactly what has happened. Certainly when I had the Serve, the NAS never slept. But when I sold the Serve the NAS started sleeping - by which I mean that the green disk lights and activity light turned off and just the blue power light was on. When I asked for an album via the iPad it would wake up. It may be the installation of Minim that has caused the issue, so perhaps I'll ask on their forum.
We are are having the front room walls skimmed in late June, so the carpets will be up and I was thinking of laying cables at that point. I don't mind the faint sound of the fan, but the periodic clonking is a bit of a pain.
Could you relocate the NAS drive to the dining room temporarily, it doesn't seem that far to run?
Apropos of not very much, I don't get this noisy NAS thing. I have a DS214 and sit about two feet from it. I hear nothing. No fan noise, no disk clunk (they're WD Reds). Not that I'm complaining mind, just curious.
Apropos of not very much, I don't get this noisy NAS thing. I have a DS214 and sit about two feet from it. I hear nothing. No fan noise, no disk clunk (they're WD Reds). Not that I'm complaining mind, just curious.
Same with my DS214, I have it inside a cabinet about 2m from the nearest listening pos, 4m for my hot seat, its sitting on sorbothane feet so even quieter maybe
HH,
What else have you got on the network that's awake most of or all of the time (you can ignore the SU)?
Wat, I believe the DS412 is a considerably older design of NAS enclosure, I believe that the newer ones have much more attention paid to noise (all manufacturers, Syn, QNAP and WD included). Originally small NASs were expected to operate in office environments; now the manufacturers realise that many more of the devices are being used in domestic settings where noise is a big issue.
HH,
What else have you got on the network that's awake most of or all of the time (you can ignore the SU)?
Nothing else uses the NAS, other than the Riberts radio. But that is generally switched off, or playing FM. I'm not aware of anything changing hardware-wise. Maybe it's adding Minimserver to the Synology, but I cannot be sure. I suppose I could switch it off via minimwatch and see if that makes a difference. I don't see why server software would affect the NAS power settings though.
HH,
As Huge says the newer NAS' are quieter by design, similarly some drives are quieter than others with solid state drives (if you can afford them) being silent. My DS214play is pretty quiet - but then again I keep that in my study away from my listening area.
You may find that your Roberts radio is continually polling the network even though it is only playing FM thereby stopping the NAS from sleeping/hibernating - perhaps someone with more knowledge than me can confirm/deny this.
I understand that Minim support is pretty good and they may be able to answer your question regarding the interplay of Minim Server and hibernation/sleeping of Synology NAS.
HH
I would check to see if Minimserver has any updates pending. my Syn 414 always sleeps when not in use unless Minimserver has has an update waiting to install. Its quite a handy indication really. Check this via Minimwatch. The updates can be quite regular.
Graeme
If your NAS is noisy the first thing to do is isolate it from any hard surfaces. Putting it on an old mouse mat will do the trick, or blu tac. That will stop it resonating the surface.
After that, make sure the fan is fairly clear of dust. More dust means more fan noise, both duration and volume. Also that the fan is unobstructed and it's not near a heat source such as a radiator or, perhaps more likely, a Unitiqute. The cooler it is, the less the fan will come on.
There are also settings in the web manager, depending on the Syno model I guess. If they're available, make sure that Quiet Mode is set, and that HDD Hibernation is set to a sensible time such as 20 mins.
If it's still noisy you'll have to move it or get something else - the quietest option would be a silent NAS enclosure with solid state drives.
I sit mine on a few layers of bubble wrap, works wonders.
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