HOW MUSICIANS ARE DESTROYING THE RECORDING INDUSTRY

Posted by: Dreadatthecontrols on 01 April 2015

I have stumbled across this article which may be of interest to lovers of recorded music;


HOW MUSICIANS ARE DESTROYING THE RECORDING INDUSTRY

 

by João Ganho

 

Let's get honest here: musicians don't hear the same way a sound engineer does. In fact, they are light years from us and they will never understand sound as we do in all their lifetime. They will never understand what a good recording is, muchless how to distinguish a good one from a reference one. As hard as a sound engineer works and as much talent he may have, a musician will always look at him at the end of a listening session with that awkward face of someone who does not get the sound engineer's proudness: "It's recorded, so what?!” Unfortunately, 99 percent of musicians don't give us a damn credit, albeit the outstanding stereo soundstage we recreated on record, the control we achieved to their uncontrolled dynamics or the wonderful performance they got because we managed to mask their flaws with careful microphone position or by inserting some cool effects in the mix.

 

Musicians take sound engineering for granted because they don't know what to listen to in a recording other than themselves. By opposition, a good sound engineer does not take a musician for granted because he knows a good record is not made only of his good sound engineering. Let's face it: musicians are complex human beings by nature and much of their talent and art is a result of this! But if they would know what to listen to in a recording, both our lives would be much simpler and they would be the ones to get the highest benefit from it. A talented sound engineer won't destroy his own career by recording a lesser musician, but even an unique and out-of-this-world musician may put an end to his career with a bad recording. And the worst part is that he will for sure never understand how everything happened because he can't notice what is bad in a bad recording.

 

A musician's inability to distinguish a good from a bad recording is a reflection of what they expect from a recording and from our work: their focus is so centered on their performance that they forget there is much more about the music. Recorded music is, or should be, made of several things other than their performance: space, soundstage, volume, tonal and frequency balance being the main ones. But in these hard times for those who spend a lifetime trying to improve recorded sound, musicians should also be concerned about these other things: distortion, dynamics, resolution, harmonics, clearness and intelligibility.

 

 

Let me get specific here: 99 percent of the time I watch a musician listening to their material I get the feeling they don't have a clue about how the sound engineer managed to get them that type of sound, much less what he was trying to achieve. Take the tri dimensional nature of the music for example: sound is compression and rarefaction of air molecules, being that the vibrating source may be located anywhere around the listener. In an odd way, when listening to recorded music musicians seem to get space in one dimension only: foreground and background, dry or reverberant, louder or softer. It is as they hear everything in mono and any stereo soundstage you recreate with rudimentary pan pot seems to be enough. They don't even get the difference between this in-your-face ping-pong stereo and a wide stereo soundstage achieved through delays and out-of-phase elements. This explains in part the modern age success of near-field monitors and the fact that every sound engineer is mixing with the speakers 1 meter apart from each other on a daily basis without any client asking if that is really the right way of listening to recorded music! Artists are not listening to the same things as some of us are, that is the sad truth.

 

Oddly enough, musicians are extremely sensible and prone to the musical performance no matter how bad the sound they are listening to. They have a unique and enjoyable way of filtering everything around the musical content. They spot a wrong note in a very noisy and medium-frequency dominant old recording of Furtwangler or a nano beat tempo change in a muddy recording of a drum set. They seem to have a noise-suppressor and restoration plug-in in the brain! The problem is when that organic plug-in gets in the way of their own recordings. And, to be honest, that is most of the time...

 

Never in the history of recorded music there has been so many bad sound engineered records out there. They sound truly lousy on their own, but things get worse if we think that never in the history of recorded music the equipment was so advance and almost capable of recreating a live experience as of today, be it a classical music audiophile recording or an extremely produced rock album. Musicians don't like to take the credit for this paradox and sure they are not alone, but the truth is that it is their posture of "I don't care about the tech side" the one to blame for most of it. Modern musicians divorced themselves from the technical side of the process of making an album with the excuse that "content is over form". This is true, but they forget they live and work in a record industry and, therefore, form is also a good part of the content. If they can't deal with this they should get out of the recording business as fast as they can because they misunderstand the medium.

 

 

Even an orthodox artist like maestro Sergiu Celibidache, who refused for most of his life to put his performances on record under the excuse that each one was unique and unrepeatable was more accurate and wise about the industry than most of modern musicians: rejecting the record concept based on this premiss of "it's only a copy of a complex reality" is the most valid argument and shows more knowledge about the medium than anyone else. On the opposite side, but expressing the same profound knowledge of the industry, stands Herbert Von Karajan. He recorded 3 complete cycles of Beethoven's symphonies only for Deutsche Grammophon (not counting the EMI years) because he wanted to keep up to date with recording technology.Like Celibidache, he understood that any recording creates its own reality, but he wanted to take full advantage of it. For this he knew there was a need for the best sound engineering he could grasp to. And he was the most informed person about it at the studio, getting to the point of stating about digital sound that "anything else is gaslight" - this was in the early 80's... Like these two artist from the classical music world, I could give you some more from the rock world such as Pink Floyd or Peter Gabriel, but let's stick to the main concern of my argumentation: any talented and professional artist knows the need to keep himself/herself informed about the medium he operates so he/she may take full advantage of it.

 

A musician to care about the technical dark side of the recording process or to know the medium is not as if he needs a master graduation on sound engineering or electronics. He only needs good listening habits and good recording references. Quite often, if you go to a musician's home you easily get to understand what I am saying here: most of them don't take the time to listen to music seated in the sweet spot, doing absolutely nothing else, much less in a satisfactory medium priced hi-fi equipment properly placed or calibrated;

 

and most of the times their recording references from a reduced record collection or from youtube are not about the recording but only about the performance. How does this translates to their record career? Not in the best way, I’m afraid.

 

By voluntarily putting themselves out of the tech knowledge, modern musicians are giving away all their credits at the hands of inexperienced or untalented sound engineers setting up the wrong microphones in inadequate acoustics, over processing the mix or mastering in a bad monitoring environment. And they will never get the main point in any art or business: people or consumers are not stupid and, even if it may take some time, they always spot and reject the low quality product. The average listener is unable to identify the goods or the flaws in a recording, even less get rational about it, but he always knows by instinct what tracks give him the goose bumps and which ones are to cut from the playlist. And music is sound. If it has bad sound engineering this will get in the way people perceive a song or a theme. Maybe I am being naive here, but how many times do you hear average listeners stating about a music they enjoy, "this performance is great"? They always say, "this music sounds good"! A record is exclusively about the performance exclusively for its own performer. Period. Recording musicians need to start listening to recorded music for real - it's not about the technical fuss and buzz, it's about the medium. Or just leave...

 

 

JG

 

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Posted on: 01 April 2015 by Dave***t
As a musician who, like other musicians I know, has spent hundreds of hours with different masterings, discussing small elements of a mix and so on, I'm not keen on the massively generalising tone. Even if the results aren't always stellar, it's not necessarily for lack of effort.

I take the point that there are facets to the process that musicians might not be aware of, but surely it's a matter of discrete roles. People with very different skills all working together. Is it really any more surprising if a musician concentrates on their performance than if an engineer concentrates on their job? 'Destroying the recording industry' is a ridiculous claim. If he's upset to the point that he thinks musicians should quit (is that what he means by leave?), he could always take his own advice.
Posted on: 01 April 2015 by feeling_zen

I don't necessarily agree with this post either.

 

When I worked as a dealer it was true that some musicians who really focused their career on a single instrument in isolation tended to walk off after buying something that sounded awful because all they could focus on was certain aspects of the instrument they are familiar with.

 

But that was certainly not the norm - merely something I have seen happen. Some musicians are in fact known for having an exceptional ear in the recording studio (Kate Bush, Prince to name a couple) and it shows in the quality of their production (excellent).

 

This leads me to believe that the truth of the matter is that musicians are simply no less subject to personal preference or biased choice due to what they are exposed to than the rest of us.

Posted on: 01 April 2015 by Harry

As loose and misleading generalisation goes, that OP is pretty much a bulls eye.

Posted on: 01 April 2015 by bluedog

Since when did musicians have any serious influence over a commercial pop or rock recording?  When I worked in the record industry the producer and the engineer (and the master engineer back in the day) decided what the recording would sound like and that was always influenced to a significant extent by what was going to be 'chart friendly' and, from the 1980's on, how it was going to sound on FM radio.

 

Read 'Perfecting Sound Forevere' for a great insight in to the history of commercial recording

Posted on: 01 April 2015 by feeling_zen
As you say, I don't think they do have that much influence. In my counter argument to this thread I named 2 that are known to do their productions. Now that I think about, most that are known for self producing do a good job. The worst travesties of bad production I own are all done buy a producer provided by the label.
Posted on: 02 April 2015 by Dreadatthecontrols

I should clarify that by posting this article, it shouldn't be assumed that I agree with it. It is clearly a controversial view and I posted it in interest of the views of other readers.

Richard

Posted on: 02 April 2015 by Harry

Oh, OK then. It's rubbish.  I won't dignify such twaddle with a discussion.

Posted on: 02 April 2015 by DavidDever

Clearly, his primary clientele does not consist of musicians or of music recording sessions....

 

That said, the AVID / Digidesign converters shown in the studio snapshots are not really suitable for a mastering facility either, due to a perceived lack of dynamic range and/or neutrality (they are not really close to good enough). They are perfectly fine for film or video, though, where the large number of summed channels helps to compensate for the interface's diminished dynamic range, and for which it appears most of his clientele is concentrated (rather than two-channel or surround music).

 

It should be kindly suggested that he ask to have his diaper changed, as its contents are seeping onto his computer keyboard.

Posted on: 02 April 2015 by Dave***t
Originally Posted by DavidDever:

It should be kindly suggested that he ask to have his diaper changed, as its contents are seeping onto his computer keyboard.

That made me chuckle.  Must work it into conversation at some point.

Posted on: 03 April 2015 by Kevin-W
Originally Posted by bluedog:

Since when did musicians have any serious influence over a commercial pop or rock recording?  When I worked in the record industry the producer and the engineer (and the master engineer back in the day) decided what the recording would sound like and that was always influenced to a significant extent by what was going to be 'chart friendly' and, from the 1980's on, how it was going to sound on FM radio.

 

Read 'Perfecting Sound Forevere' for a great insight in to the history of commercial recording

A bit of a generalisation that, don't you think? I think all kinds of people - Jimmy Page, Pink Floyd (and Gilmour and Waters out on their own), Scott Walker, Kate Bush, Garcia & Co, Hendrix in the later stages of his career and the Beatles in the latter part of theirs, Ralf Hutter and Florian Schneider, Can, etc etc blah would disagree with you.

 

Perfecting Sound Forever is a wonderful book, but it is not the Koran nor is it the final word on these matters.

Posted on: 03 April 2015 by Kevin-W

I read this self-styled "sound engineer"'s post with mounting incredulity. Not just for its prolixity, but also its sense of entitlement and its thoroughly unearned air of accomplishment.

 

This guy is probably the kind of dullard who gets his rocks off on those godawful Chesky recordings, or something from Sheffield Labs, rather than actual music.

 

What a complete load of shit.

Posted on: 03 April 2015 by MangoMonkey

Sure this wasn't an April Fool's joke?

Posted on: 03 April 2015 by J.N.

Musicians have never had a clue about producing a good recording for domestic replay. Which is understandable - they are principally interested in achieving a good live sound.

 

Sound engineers used to get it right with popular music, but are now under pressure to optimise mastering for radio, lo-fi kit and the mp3 player.

 

Popular music recording/mastering quality is down the toilet and I see no 'marketing' reason for it to come back out in the foreseeable future. The music industry will not be troubled by a handful of audiophiles.

 

John.

Posted on: 03 April 2015 by Kevin-W
Originally Posted by MangoMonkey:

Sure this wasn't an April Fool's joke?

I wondered that as well but on the guy's blog, the date is 17th July 2014.

Posted on: 03 April 2015 by ken c
Originally Posted by Dave***t:
Originally Posted by DavidDever:

It should be kindly suggested that he ask to have his diaper changed, as its contents are seeping onto his computer keyboard.

That made me chuckle.  Must work it into conversation at some point.

+1 

 

enjoy

ken

Posted on: 04 April 2015 by Peet

Ray Charles, Quincy Jones, Daniel Lanois,

guitarist; Frank Zappa, Pat Metheny , Jan Erik Kongshaug (ecm), T Bone Burnett,

and a bunch of bass players doubling as producers and engineers Marcus Miller,

John Clayton (Dianne Krall)  Peter Bjornild (Sound Liaison),  Stanley Clarke, Larry Klein (Joni Mitchell)........I could go on forever, there are lots of good musicians who are also engineers or producers.

Posted on: 04 April 2015 by dayjay

I don't know, I sometimes wonder if Rush have bothered to listen to wht was recorded, and if they did, why they let some of the albums go out

Posted on: 04 April 2015 by feeling_zen
Clockwork Angels is definately not a fine example of production. I wasn't aware they produced it themselves. It's not a masterpiece like 2112 either so no great loss.
Posted on: 04 April 2015 by Peet

Ry Cooder!

Posted on: 04 April 2015 by Dave***t
That Buena Vista album is a lovely recording, full of atmosphere when Chan Chan kicks off.
Posted on: 04 April 2015 by GraemeH
Originally Posted by Dave***t:
That Buena Vista album is a lovely recording, full of atmosphere when Chan Chan kicks off.

'Paradise & Lunch' also an early indicator of commitment to the recorded sound.

 

G

Posted on: 04 April 2015 by dayjay
Originally Posted by feeling_zen:
Clockwork Angels is definately not a fine example of production. I wasn't aware they produced it themselves. It's not a masterpiece like 2112 either so no great loss.

Clockwork Angels is just about the only album I can't listen to by them, despite its almost universal aclaim

Posted on: 04 April 2015 by karlosTT

The title (of the article) alone is absurd.  There wouldn't be a "recording industry" without musicians. Perhaps he feels this industry would prosper far better if all the musicians packed their bags and became insurance salesmen......

Posted on: 04 April 2015 by fatcat
Originally Posted by dayjay:

I don't know, I sometimes wonder if Rush have bothered to listen to wht was recorded, and if they did, why they let some of the albums go out

At the other end of the scale lies Power Windows.

 

One of the best produced albums I've heard, absolutely stunning. Definitely my favourite Rush album although not just down to the production.

 

Listened to 2112 last week, mainly due to the fact I'd just read Anthem by Ayn Rand. Not quite as magical as remembered, sounded a bit dated, but still very good.

Posted on: 04 April 2015 by fatcat
Originally Posted by Peet:

Ray Charles, Quincy Jones, Daniel Lanois,

guitarist; Frank Zappa, Pat Metheny , Jan Erik Kongshaug (ecm), T Bone Burnett,

and a bunch of bass players doubling as producers and engineers Marcus Miller,

John Clayton (Dianne Krall)  Peter Bjornild (Sound Liaison),  Stanley Clarke, Larry Klein (Joni Mitchell)........I could go on forever, there are lots of good musicians who are also engineers or producers.

On the other hand lots of top notch engineers/producers weren’t successful musicians. Jellybean Benitas, Ted Templeman and Tony Visconti spring to mind

Martin Birch the greatest sound engineer ever, wasn’t a musician.