Well now this is interesting

Hi garyi how you installed the Naim App on OSX?

I bet this sounds better though.

How about this

Blistering Barnacles!

Andy are you running Ark Welder? I got mine going, every thing works except UPNP if I select that it spins for a while and bums out.

I'm Richard, not Andy, but the software is called Andy!

If you Google "Andy The Android Emulator" you will find it.  I'm running on Windows.  It installs an Android distribution into a virtual machine.

UPNP only runs if you select compatibility mode, I couldn't get it to work 'normally' but then it all seems to work fine.

I'm very tempted with a Mu-So for our study, I currently have a Sonos Play 5 which works well but the SQ isn't that great.  I like the fact that I can control the Sonos from my Windows desktop so this solution seems to fit the bill.

Richard

Doesn't support iOS though.

Shame.

That's excellent Richard. Thank you. If I can get a Windows version of the app running on my office PC  I will order a Muso. This could prove expensive. We've already ordered one for the dining room.

Harry

The first time I installed I received an error so rebooted and tried again and it was up and running.  Running on Windows 8.1 64 bit here.

When it starts up it goes through the same procedure you would see if you have a new Android phone or tablet, so enter in your Google details and away you go.  I've just installed the Naim app and nothing else.

Compatibility mode doesn't worry me too much in this context, it's just nice to be able to select something to play, pause etc. without needing a phone or tablet in the study.  Lazy I know but the desktop app on Sonos is really useful.

Richard

Thank you so much Richard. You've just put a Muso in my office!

Harry 

That's great news. 

Did you need to enable compatibility mode and are there any other issues controlling the Mu-So?  I am just controlling an NDX at the moment. 

I feel a Mu-So will soon come along. My wife has always suggested it as I have a significant birthday coming up next month. I can't believe I will soon be 30!

All the best 

Richard 

I did have to enable compatibility mode and restart it a couple of times after the PC reboot, but it ran fine after that and brought back old memories of when I could control the HDX in the distant lounge from my office using the DTC.

Helen went for a Muso in the dining room after playing with one at the dealer. She's got an iPod and iPhone which she can control it with, or even plug into the Muso - although that won't be necessary or of the best quality.

I was looking at pressing yet another control device into service if I wanted a Muso in my office and compared to the convenience (but not the musical performance) of my Sonos, I just didn't see the point. I've heard tell that a PC version of the streaming app will see the light of day - one day. Probably. If all goes well. Ish. But now that the PC can run the app in my office - I'm in!

Big thank you for this.

Oh compatibility mode works for Ark Welder as well. Naim app working fine here on OSX via google chrome, tasty.

Hmmm...tried to download it and Norton jumped in, said it was unsafe and automatically removed it.

Well then you have learnt a valuable lesson, norton is a bag of turd. I thought this was universally understood?

+1  Norton is the most machine crushing pile of kak out there.  And unfortunately, the same can be said for a number of other anti-virus / malware products.  The viruses themselves are less damaging. 

Gary originally posted:

"Well then you have learnt a valuable lesson, norton is a bag of turd. I thought this was universally understood?"

SongStream originally posted:

"The viruses themselves are less damaging."

These comments are blatantly untrue, horribly unsafe and at best the re-gurgitation of a view held by so called 'experts' people who by and large use Linux or Apple devices as opposed to Windows desktop.

For the majority of people who use Windows but who are not computer 'experts', it is absolutely essential to use a reliable anti-virus/security package. There have been problems with impact on computer performance with some older instances of Norton, but the most recent couple of instances of Norton Internet Security are pretty good from that perspective. Kaspersky is the other Internet security package that I would personally recommend. There are some other packages out there that are nowhere near as effective, and the most commonly used free products (such as AVG) are also less effective than Norton or Kaspersky.

For any 'normal' computer user with just a basic knowledge of computing, and who uses his/her Windows desktop to access Internet banking or any other financial services, please don't listen to this advice, and please install a decent Internet Security package!   

Hmack, absolutely, and of course lets not forget, depending of your usage habits, you need care on OSX now.. The days of viruses and vulnerabilities being limited to Windows have long gone.. It's just they are not as prolific as on Windows.. However keeping upto date with the OSX security patches is sufficient for me As well as using the free Microsoft Security Essentials security guard software for Windows.

For Internet banking I use Trusteer Rapport for OSX and Windows.(many online banks provide free of charge in the UK). It creates a secure sub shell on your PC/Mac when interacting with your online bank.. It helps prevent any malware that has got through onto your system capturing key presses etc.

Simon

Well, please don't put me in the Apple / Linux camp.  You are right in what you say...mostly, though I still think Norton is ahead in terms of machines it's ruined vs viruses. My comment that you have highlighted was not really advice.  In fact the best I advice I can give to everyone is to ignore anything I say on any topic.

Norton is crap. Its crap on mac and its crap on PC, that is my personal opinion borne out by very recent experience.

At no point did I suggest you should not have anti virus. I am currently trying out 360 internet security running the bitdefender package (on both pc and mac). Not sure at this early stage how effective it is, but one thing is for certain it uses less resource and is less in your face than norton.

I spent a couple of hours trying to sort out my elderly neighbour's PC the other day because of Norton & what it'd done to it. Yep, pure cr*p.

I had Norton a year or so ago and had no problems whatsoever.

If people think there's a user wide trouble free anti virus out there then they're kidding themselves.  Go and check any anti virus makers support forums.  Every company has had their share of disasters over the years and the best bet is not take jump in as soon as they release a new version.  Let everyone else test it.

+1 on the need to have a good Internet Security package installed

I also agree with Jota in that I let oothers do the testing first. Towards the end of most years there is a new round of security products issued and the very nice PC type magazines (eg PC Pro etc) go out and test them. I read the articles and take my choice. Conveniently for me my annual subscription runs out around end Jan each year so the reviews are all complete and available in time for me to choose. Must confess I do not use Norton although I have in the past when it had better reviews.

DWO

I think anti-virus vendors are like cell phone and cable providers; whichever one you currently have is the one you hate the most...

There are NO Internet Security or ant-virus packages out there that are 100% effective.

If you (or probably any one of our financial service organisations) were unlucky enough to be targeted by any one of a number of state sponsored hackers, then there really is very little chance of countering a determined attack effectively. Luckily that is unlikely to be a problem that any of us or any individual is likely to experience.

Internet Security packages are designed to protect against the amateur or the typical fairly sophisticated organised cyber criminal gangs. The best of the security packages do a pretty good job of protecting against such activity and are relatively easy to install and use by the average reasonably computer literate person. Norton fairly regularly (with a few product iteration exceptions) comes out well in comparisons of security packages. Although I don't always use Norton myself, I have regularly installed it on systems belonging to relatives because it is so easy to use and because current versions don't have the adverse impact on system performance that previous generations have sometimes had. The only problems that have occurred in my experience, are when updates are not implemented regularly.  

To those people who believe that Norton is c***, would you care to outline what package or security measures that you use? As intimated by Jota and DrMark, there are no products out there that are universally loved and there are certainly universally used packages out there that are nowhere near as effective as either Norton or Kaspersky. As Simon has indicated, users of IOS devices can no longer be confident that their 'unprotected' transactions are safe.

If you are worried about the impact on system performance, then my advice would be to have a stand-alone system for Internet Banking or other financial transactions, and make sure that this is well protected using a package such as Norton or Kaspersky Internet Security. By all means then have a second device (where system performance is critical), but where you are not overly concerned about security. Where if you encounter a problem, you simply wipe your hard disk and re-install everything from scratch. Stick something like (the free version of) AVG on this and you will probably be ok for a while.