We say source first, but what counts as a source?

Posted by: SongStream on 05 April 2015

It used to be clear, for the first twenty years of my hifi ownership, the source of the data was a silver disc, and the source of the noise was my CD player. Simple wasn't it? Now I mainly stream from Qobuz via a PC, so the source of the data for music I listen to these days is...well, I don't know where it is. I suspect it could be a data centre in France, but tracing it could be a challenge akin to finding the source of the Nile. With the data whereabouts unknown and that accepted, what counts as the source in hifi terms? The PC, the software running on the PC (definitely important!), the ADSL router, the exchange, a data centre or NAS drive, where does it end?


This question entered my head after listening for a while the other day, and thinking afterwards how wonderful the DAC-V1 and SN2 combination was working. In my mind I had thought of the DAC as the source, as everything beyond it was non-hifi, but then started wondering, is it really? As I read about companies producing audiophile NAS drives, with audio grade SSDs in them, and people worrying about power supplys to network switches, audio grade ethernet cables and auralics, I start to wonder if I am missing something.


I've been of the mind that with most DACs being electrically isolated from the incoming digital signal, and with clever buffering and re-clocking, which I believe would intervene regardless of digital source, the audio stream coming from the USB bus of a PC, should be the same, and as good, as any other streamer in to the same DAC.


Thinking about this topic has, once again, left me confused, though that's not difficult. I would be really interested to hear views on the importance of various elements in the digital domain, when streaming from a NAS, or online, and prior to reaching something like a Hugo, or DAC-V1 etc.  

 

Thanks



Posted on: 06 April 2015 by Ken Ploegaerts

This is a nice topic be read.

 

bits and Bytes and them being perfect...

But does it make them count as a source? No.

 

All that has been written here is about reproducing the bitstream  (digital) or groove (analog) into the best possible sound out of a 'hifi'-system.

 

Could it be that the streamer or turntable is the source? No it's not.

However, It is true that what is lost here can never be gained at the pre/power-amp.

So spending more money on the 'source' is indeed a good approach.

 

For me the real source is the recording itself. You can spend 1000's of $ on your equipment. If the recording is crap, the sound of your system will be crap. It does not matter if it is a digital or analog source.

 

Maybe vinyl is preferred over digital because more care has been taken at the recording stage of the music itself, before it is pressed onto it's carrier....

 

Posted on: 06 April 2015 by SongStream

 

So to summarise.....

 

 

if the source is a "NAS" and the transfer is "UPnP" then

 If bits are perfect then

  Fine play away...

 otherwise

  This is bullsh!t

 End of story

 

 

Posted on: 06 April 2015 by SongStream

Damn, meant to add end of thread.