New TV needed

Posted by: Bananahead on 11 April 2015

Having had my Panasonic Plasma removed I am in need of a new TV.

 

What would you choose around 55" for about 2000-2500 ish ( ChF £ € )

 

I have been looking at the LG OLED, does anyone have one or have opinions? 

Posted on: 12 April 2015 by robgr

I wouldn't look at anything other than LG but you should be looking at the 4K OLED models

There are curved 4K OLEDs available now but I'm waiting for the flat panels which are due out around now

I'd say it's worth going beyond your budget for OLED as I expect they will start at more than than £2.5k

As for OLED, it's unbeatable. Just go to your local store and compare to LED

Unparalled blacks & whites, contrast and colour reproduction, wide viewing angles and fantastic motion handling

And as for 4K, truly stunning. The images are so vivid it kills 3D dead

Let's not forget too the new WebOS 2.0 which is 60% faster and itself is grabbing headlines

LG models to look out for are 55EF950V & 65EF950V - prices & availablity to be confirmed

Posted on: 12 April 2015 by Bananahead

Thanks.

 

Yes if we were in the UK we would be looking at the 960. Sadly here in France we only get the 930 this year. The 930 can be found for 2400€ here.

 

And there is no 4K material anyway. Sky will have a service later this year but who knows what data rate they will use - the Netflix service is quite low. And we haven't seen any 4K Blu-ray yet.  The demos that we see in shops are from attached hard drives that have a high data rate so look lovely.

Posted on: 12 April 2015 by totemphile

One thing to consider, technology in the TV domain is changing quite quickly. OLED offers probably the best picture quality at the moment but they are expensive. The new kid on the block is quantum dots TVs, based on LCD technology yet promising near OLED quality at lower prices. These are probably still one or two years away at the lower end of the market but it may be worth holding off a large sum investment in an OLED TV, if not spending unnecessary money is a concern. Bog standard Edge LED backlight TVs can be found at €300 upwards (maybe at Carrefour?), offering astonishingly good picture quality for the money (one could argue a good Edge LED TV is all you ever need but of course that's up to the individual). So one approach could be to get a cheaper Edge LED TV now, selling it on ebay in a couple of years and invest properly in a quantum dots TV then. Just a thought, if the best picture quality is that important to you. More info on the subject here: http://www.wired.com/2015/01/primer-quantum-dot/

 

Good luck

tp

 

 

Posted on: 12 April 2015 by Bananahead

I am used to a plasma and no LCD has ever come close. I spent some time yesterday (in Darty) looking at a lot of screens. I know that looking at screens in shops is a bit of a fools errand if you don't know what you are looking for but the LG 930 looked great. I have read a lot of reviews and opinions today.

 

Quantum dot is just a marketing ploy by the LCD makers. I think that OLED is going to take over in the next few years.

Posted on: 12 April 2015 by totemphile

As always: You pays yer mon-ey and you takes yer choice...

 

Posted on: 12 April 2015 by fatcat
Originally Posted by Bananahead:

I am used to a plasma and no LCD has ever come close. I spent some time yesterday (in Darty) looking at a lot of screens. I know that looking at screens in shops is a bit of a fools errand if you don't know what you are looking for but the LG 930 looked great. I have read a lot of reviews and opinions today.

 

Quantum dot is just a marketing ploy by the LCD makers. I think that OLED is going to take over in the next few years.


You’ve obviously not been fortunate enough to view a “Triluminos quantum dot” equipped Sony W905.

 

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk...minos-display-review

Quantum dot is definitely not a marketing ploy.

Although a quantum dot screen won’t guarantee a quality picture, the later W955 TV’s use quantum dot screens, and are not very good, coincidentally these are made by LG.
To be fair it may not all be down to the screen, could be down to less powerful image processing.

The above probably applies to OLED TV’s, a technically advanced screen is no guarantee of a quality picture, image processing plays an important roll.

A TV’s may look good in store, but don’t forget the demo material is usually chosen to highlight strengths, with brightness and saturation levels set way to high. Fine if you constantly watch night views of Hong Kong or brightly coloured fish gliding through coral reefs, but not so good if you watch Coronation Street or Eastenders in SD.

Posted on: 12 April 2015 by Bananahead

Thanks Fatcat.

 

http://www.sony.co.uk/pro/products/solutions-oled

 

This is Sony's own marketing for their OLED offerings where they trash LCD.

 

It's telling that the sub headline of the review that you have linked to claims that it is almost as good as plasma.

 

I agreed with you about shop displays in my post that you quoted  It's not just the colour saturation that is too high in shops, the environment is normally far too bright with a lot of mixed artificial lighting. Certainly nothing like I have at home.

 

The shop that I was in on Saturday was showing normal TV on most of the displays - including the LG OLED. Most LCD looked horrible - although some looked really good. Until you moved slightly off axis.

 

Anyway, it seems that I have convinced myself in the last few days.

 

 

 

I don't care what processing you can do, Eastenders will never be watchable.

Posted on: 13 April 2015 by robgr

I'd say quantum dot still falls short of OLED but as totemphile said you get what you pay for

There are some Sony models already using dots, just see any set with a Triluminos display

Fatcat raised a good point re image processing, the better sets all have at least quad cores

Since the rather sad demise of plasmas OLED is the only viable replacement

Consumers now want thinner sets with better visuals that at least match or ideally exceed plasmas

The early costs are also comparable to some of the 1st generation plasmas which weighed in at over £10k so in this respect OLED is cheaper

All maufactures know the writing is on the wall but only LG appears to have the vision & determination to suceed (and they will reap the rewards until others catch up)

Quantum dot is arguably a ditsraction by lesser manufactures trying spin out LCD for a while longer

There's no denying that LCD has been pushed to fantastic heights but OLED must succeed or we're stuck with LCDs and their shortcommings (when compared with OLED)

Posted on: 13 April 2015 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by fatcat:
......but not so good if you watch Coronation Street or Eastenders in SD.

 

A universally true postscript to just about any proclamation I can think of.

Posted on: 14 April 2015 by Richard Sellicks

Brought the 1k 55" LG OLED last October as a replacment for our Panasonic plasma, now considering a second one for the other room.

Posted on: 14 April 2015 by Bananahead

Thanks Richard

 

Great to know that you are happy.

Posted on: 14 April 2015 by robgr

Hi Richard, I'd love to hear a brief review of your OLED TV especially when compared to LED!

Posted on: 27 April 2015 by Bananahead

I have now had my new LG OLED 55EC930V for four days. So far I am very pleased.

 

I have watched a lot of TV of all sorts of differnt varieties and (finally) watched the last 16 episodes of breaking bad on bluray.

 

It does perfect blacks which also means extreme contrast. This can appear a bit strange because we are not used to it (even plasma has never got close). I did dial down the contrast a bit and also the normal thing of reducing sharpness a fair chunk but all other settings were left alone so far. My wife claims that the picture is not as vivid (I tend to agree which is odd because I would have expected the opposite) as the Panasonic but I suspect it is just more natural because we normally see bright punchy colours from a TV.

Posted on: 06 May 2015 by Neill Ferguson

I had a panasonic plasma sky broke it during my install and offered a fairly decent settlement so I went for the Samsung 55 curved 4k tv ( 8500 ) without doubt it wipes the floor with the panasonic plasma in all departments. I've had Sony, loewe and panasonic Tvs over the years the panasonic plasma was a multi award winning tv but none of them come close to the Samsung I have now. 

 

If I was looking again my first demo would be the LG OLED 4k tv.