Tracks that best show PRaT

Posted by: Simon-in-Suffolk on 26 April 2015

With the resurgent discussion of PRaT on the forum, I thought it would be fun to share those recordings that we feel really shows this capability on our Naim equipment and gets that foot tapping... 

As many have streaming services and / or sizeable music collections we should be able to sample the recommendations.

To kick off (track/artist)

 

 

We love to boogie.      T.Rex                  
 
Lovin' Machine.           Wynonie Harris   
 

 

Posted on: 27 April 2015 by feeling_zen
Unfunky UFO (Parliament - The Mothership Connection)
Musicology (Prince - Musicology)
Posted on: 27 April 2015 by Nick Lees

Dreadzone - Return Of The Dread

 

To those who know me and suffered at my hands, this has been my ultimate PRaT test for the last 14 years (they plan to remaster the album this year). Quite apart from its principal attribute, i.e. it's a fantastic piece of music) it has everything you need to test out the PRaTishness of your system.

 

Pace & Rhythm: from a slow start the thing explodes from about 1:00 - 1:10 where the driving drums and bass kick in (Greg Roberts, Leo Williams), but also check out from about 4:15 where the pace and rhythm start to fall apart only to knock your socks off at about the 5:00 mark.

 

If you're not off your feet cavorting round the room like a loon with his (or her) underwear on fire at this point you've either got a bad back or your system isn't doing something right.

 

Timing: The drumming's quite complex and is always propelling the track forward but on a system that isn't timing properly, the bass can lag out of synch - particularly evident at those two kick-off points at 1:10 and 5:00.

 

 

P.S. Check out Dread'pon Sound from the same album, another great deep bass workout that is a check to see if the detail on your system's in fine fettle, the bass gathers a fine fuzz/buzz texture as the track progresses.

Posted on: 27 April 2015 by joerand

For me, The Beatles "I Saw Her Standing There" oozes raw, energetic PRaT and is as tight and rhythmic a rock song as has ever been recorded. The bass-line drives the song to the hilt, and McCartney was a relative tenderfoot on the instrument at that time. A band recording an entire album in a day? No longer happens. Maybe therein lies the energy, the PRaT.

Posted on: 27 April 2015 by winkyincanada

Sex and Drugs and Rock and Roll - Ian Dury and the Blockheads

Posted on: 27 April 2015 by Tony2011

Norwegian Wood - Patricia Barber  - A Fortnight in Paris

 

 

Starts unassuming but the end of the track everything from voice, bass, piano and guitar come together in a great crescendo. Obscenely well recorded. Magic!

Posted on: 27 April 2015 by Iconoclast

Off hand...Grant Green - Airegin (alt. take) from the Nigeria album.

Posted on: 27 April 2015 by PTPlayers

Bruce katz from the record Transformation 

 

second track :Boppin' Out Of The Abyss

Posted on: 27 April 2015 by Bart
Originally Posted by joerand:

For me, The Beatles "I Saw Her Standing There" oozes raw, energetic PRaT and is as tight and rhythmic a rock song as has ever been recorded. The bass-line drives the song to the hilt, and McCartney was a relative tenderfoot on the instrument at that time. A band recording an entire album in a day? No longer happens. Maybe therein lies the energy, the PRaT.

For something a few years newer -- For You Blue.  I think I like the 'Naked' version best.

Posted on: 27 April 2015 by bluedog

Picked up the first Dire Straits LP for £1 last week; cleaned it up on the RCM and played it at the week-end.  Bags of PRAT if you like - but in non hifi speak it 'boogied' like hell.  I'd forgotten how good the album was (lost my previous copy in divorce)

Posted on: 27 April 2015 by osprey

 

You know when you're lost in music...

Posted on: 27 April 2015 by Checkthisout68

ACDC  -Stiff upper lip

Posted on: 27 April 2015 by tom539

I prefer "Strength Courage & Wisdom" from India.Arie´s first album "Acoustic Soul":

 

Posted on: 27 April 2015 by mutterback

I'll start with the negatives - a few I was hoping would display awesome PRaT on my NAIM system when I got it, where the recording quality just doesn't stand up:

- all of Led Zep (all releases)

- Radiohead, before In Rainbows

- Jamiroquai

- Hendrix, even vinyl re-release of Are you Experienced

 

Albums that rock:

- Radiohead, In Rainbows (especially the 45 rpm vinyl)

- AOXOMOXOA (Rhino vinyl re release)

- Wilco, Sky Blue Sky (on CD)

- Du Pre / Barbirolli Elgar Cello Concerto (on CD)

- Melissa Aldana & Crash Trio 

Posted on: 27 April 2015 by fatcat

Wishbone Ash - The King Will Come, although the entire Argus album qualifies.

 

Kansas - Carry On My Wayward Son.

 

Posted on: 27 April 2015 by dayjay

Lots of Rush, especially the older stuff. Cloudbusting, Kate Bush, most of Led Zep 1 and 2

Posted on: 27 April 2015 by sjbabbey

Rory Gallagher "Secret Agent"

Posted on: 27 April 2015 by TOBYJUG

Almost anything from Brit bands within late seventies and early eighties for me.

the cure ,the smiths, elvis costello, the chameleons , the stranglers ,Dr feelgood,. Any thing that has that agitated pop vibe.

not so audiophile in its recording but great anyway is My Bloody Valentines'  Loveless' album. The density of noise needs good PRaT from a system to get all the music out of it.

Posted on: 27 April 2015 by joerand
Originally Posted by fatcat:

Kansas - Carry On My Wayward Son.

I agree, that's a good one for PRaT. Well recorded and the band plays very tight on the entire album.

Posted on: 27 April 2015 by Bert Schurink

Radiohead - In Rainbows

Posted on: 27 April 2015 by King Size
Originally Posted by mutterback:

I'll start with the negatives - a few I was hoping would display awesome PRaT on my NAIM system when I got it, where the recording quality just doesn't stand up:

- all of Led Zep (all releases)

- Radiohead, before In Rainbows

- Jamiroquai

- Hendrix, even vinyl re-release of Are you Experienced

 

Albums that rock:

- Radiohead, In Rainbows (especially the 45 rpm vinyl)

- AOXOMOXOA (Rhino vinyl re release)

- Wilco, Sky Blue Sky (on CD)

- Du Pre / Barbirolli Elgar Cello Concerto (on CD)

- Melissa Aldana & Crash Trio 

Funnily enough it was hearing a Jamiroquai track through a 5i-2 combo that hooked me.  I can't recall the track off hand but there was a background sonic detail that I always just took for ornamentation but the 5i-2 set up connected it to the rest of the rhythm track and it was a light bulb moment for me.

 

I remember reading up on PRaT at the time and came across a very good article that suggested the original definition may have been Pitch, Rhythm & Timing; which made a lot if sense to me.    

Posted on: 28 April 2015 by winkyincanada
Originally Posted by mutterback:

 

- Wilco, Sky Blue Sky (on CD)

Yes, that one's rather well recorded, isn't it? Great record.

Posted on: 28 April 2015 by mutterback
Originally Posted by King Size:
Originally Posted by mutterback:

I'll start with the negatives - a few I was hoping would display awesome PRaT on my NAIM system when I got it, where the recording quality just doesn't stand up:

- all of Led Zep (all releases)

- Radiohead, before In Rainbows

- Jamiroquai

- Hendrix, even vinyl re-release of Are you Experienced

 

Albums that rock:

- Radiohead, In Rainbows (especially the 45 rpm vinyl)

- AOXOMOXOA (Rhino vinyl re release)

- Wilco, Sky Blue Sky (on CD)

- Du Pre / Barbirolli Elgar Cello Concerto (on CD)

- Melissa Aldana & Crash Trio 

Funnily enough it was hearing a Jamiroquai track through a 5i-2 combo that hooked me.  I can't recall the track off hand but there was a background sonic detail that I always just took for ornamentation but the 5i-2 set up connected it to the rest of the rhythm track and it was a light bulb moment for me.

 

I remember reading up on PRaT at the time and came across a very good article that suggested the original definition may have been Pitch, Rhythm & Timing; which made a lot if sense to me.    

Let me know if you come across the Jamiroquai track you like... I'll go back and play through their work again.  Would be great to find a track that lives up to the potential.

Posted on: 28 April 2015 by kuma

For me his 'Scam' is the one I use often.

It's pretty long and the middle part can get a bit monotonous but there is a tempo change around 5 min. in from funk to acid jazz mode and a beautiful horn solo and Stuart Zander's mean bass start. That's usually where I start a needle drop.

Posted on: 28 April 2015 by mutterback

Thanks!  Do you have the Music on Vinyl edition?

Posted on: 28 April 2015 by kuma

Yes I have MOV and Simply Vinyl pressing as well as original CD release. ( US pressing, tho )