VE day 70th Anniversary - Again

Posted by: Southweststokie on 09 May 2015

This weekend, as I'm sure people are aware, heralds the 70th anniversary of the end of the second world war in Eurpoe. The greatest conflict in history that resulted in the deaths of an estimate 50 million people around the world. It seemed to be a little bit lost in coinciding with the general election over Thursday and Friday but I wondered if forum members would care to share there thoughts on this event.

 

It changed the shape of Europe and world we live in but freed, Europe and the Far East from oppression, slavery and genocide. We should be grateful to the generation of people who sacrificed their lives and the hardships they endured to free the world of the tyranny of that time.

 

Ken

Posted on: 11 May 2015 by Lionel
Originally Posted by DrMark:

To answer Lionel:

 

1.) Many polls including independent ones.

 

2.) Don't worry...China is next.  Russia is just closer to the US military arm in Europe (NATO) and presents the first move in a strategy written about in foreign policy articles as "the Asian Pivot."

 

Hafler: not sure I follow your post about German tanks (?)

Can you link to (1)?

Where can I find this US Government strategy document Asian Pivot?

Posted on: 12 May 2015 by DrMark

As for (1) here is a quick one:

 

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/...oll-says/504691.html

 

(And lest anyone cry 'propaganda' the MT is a staunchly Western backed publication.)

 

And something "closer to home" (which ironically this IS a propaganda piece, but it doesn't dispute the results of the poll.)

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...popularity-cult.html

 

If Obama or Cameron had that kind of rating, they would think their s**t didn't stink...(oh I forgot, BHO already does...won't comment on the UK's guy.)

 

As for the Asia Pivot, let me get back to you - I need to get to work.

Posted on: 12 May 2015 by DrMark

As promised - anything Robert Kagan (or his c-word wife) are involved in is neocon "evil" of the first order.  Amazing how these people transitioned seamlessly from the Bush administration to the Obama administration.

 

http://www.foreignpolicyi.org/...strations-pivot-asia

 

Apparently the first reference to the term was an article written by Killary in Foreign Policy:

 

http://foreignpolicy.com/2011/...cas-pacific-century/

 

And a more recent reference - nothing secret about it:

 

http://nationalinterest.org/bl...cas-asia-pivot-12619

Posted on: 12 May 2015 by Peter Dinh

China, the forgotten ally - China suffered nearly 20,000,000 deaths during WW II, second only to the USSR.

Posted on: 14 May 2015 by MDS
Originally Posted by Peter Dinh:

China, the forgotten ally - China suffered nearly 20,000,000 deaths during WW II, second only to the USSR.

I think that's one for a thread on VJ day since these deaths were largely inflicted by the Japanese army.

Posted on: 14 May 2015 by Peter Dinh
Originally Posted by MDS:
Originally Posted by Peter Dinh:

China, the forgotten ally - China suffered nearly 20,000,000 deaths during WW II, second only to the USSR.

I think that's one for a thread on VJ day since these deaths were largely inflicted by the Japanese army.

Thanks MDS, fully understood. However, the events in the Pacific theatre indirectly impacted what happened in Europe, and the VE eventually.