What's the best way to enjoy qobuz through naim?

Posted by: Knipester on 26 May 2015

im currently streaming my qobuz subscription service from a vortexbox via its usb output to my chord Hugo into my nac252/300 combo.

 

im sure that my vortexbox is the weak link but as naim don't support live steaming from qobuz I'm having to consider other brands, number one is the auralic Aries but I'm open to other suggestions, observations, methods?

 

thanks in advance

Posted on: 26 May 2015 by phosphocreatine

By convincing Naim to add Qobuz support to their streamers !

Posted on: 26 May 2015 by jfritzen

By streaming Qobuz directly from a Linn DS to your 252.

Posted on: 26 May 2015 by GregW

As always it depends on how much you want to spend and how long you plan to keep the device. Good interim solutions could be the Sonos Connect or Bluesound Node. An interesting new entrant might be the recently announced Auralic Aries Mini.

 

As I understand it it's an Aries without the Femto clocks and linear power supply option. It adds a DAC and the ability to install a internal HDD for those who don't want a NAS. At USD 399 it's going to get a lot of interest.

 

The streaming market will experience a lot of change. These are all loss making businesses after all. Whatever you choose make sure it supports more than one streaming service.

Posted on: 26 May 2015 by marcusman
Originally Posted by phosphocreatine:

By convincing Naim to add Qobuz support to their streamers !

+1 (But also include Tidal as Qobuz is a no go in the States)

Posted on: 26 May 2015 by marcusman
Originally Posted by GregW:

As always it depends on how much you want to spend and how long you plan to keep the device. Good interim solutions could be the Sonos Connect or Bluesound Node. An interesting new entrant might be the recently announced Auralic Aries Mini.

 

As I understand it it's an Aries without the Femto clocks and linear power supply option. It adds a DAC and the ability to install a internal HDD for those who don't want a NAS. At USD 399 it's going to get a lot of interest.

 

The streaming market will experience a lot of change. These are all loss making businesses after all. Whatever you choose make sure it supports more than one streaming service.

For Tidal I'm using an Airport Express with a w4s Remedy with pretty damn good results. Hopefully Naim will update their software soon.  

Posted on: 26 May 2015 by ChrisSU

I'd go for a Sonos Connect. It will still be the weak link in your chain, although from what I've read, a W4S upgrade will help close the gap. Other than that...................................patience!

Posted on: 27 May 2015 by Ingenius
Originally Posted by jfritzen:

By streaming Qobuz directly from a Linn DS to your 252.

+ 1

my linn DS has support for both Qobuz and Tidal.. My Superuniti however is still waiting..... And waiting .. Unless something happens soon, one is getting sold at a substantial loss.. And may never return which is sad .. Very sad

 

Posted on: 27 May 2015 by Bert Schurink
Originally Posted by marcusman:
Originally Posted by phosphocreatine:

By convincing Naim to add Qobuz support to their streamers !

+1 (But also include Tidal as Qobuz is a no go in the States)

+1

Posted on: 27 May 2015 by Philim
Sonos + remedy + linear PS/9v battery...
Posted on: 27 May 2015 by Simon-in-Suffolk

I agree a reclocked Sonos is a good solution right now, and you then have access to most streaming services available depending where you are in the world, bot free and subscription. However I have found a reclocked Sonos is still not in the same league as native Naim streaming.. and I am looking at devising a way of formally measuring these differences.

The linn solution into a Naim preamp or DAC is one I had not considered.. and could be an interesting alternative.

Simon

 

Posted on: 28 May 2015 by Robd67

I upgraded my Naim setup to include a ND5XS and Nait XS2. My Previous system included a Squeezebox Touch for network streaming and Spotify. I had tried Qobuz with this but the difference between the 2 was minimal. However I hooked up the SBT to my ND5XS acting as DAC and tried Qobuz again and now I can hear a vast improvement. As a result I stopped Spotify even though the connect feature was very user friendly through the Naim.

Posted on: 28 May 2015 by GraemeH
Originally Posted by Philim:
Sonos + remedy + linear PS/9v battery...

Agree. Into a Chord 2Qute it really sounds excellent.

 

I find the DC1's and HiLine add worthwhile finesse.

 

G

Posted on: 28 May 2015 by jukemark
Originally Posted by Simon-in-Suffolk:

I agree a reclocked Sonos is a good solution right now, and you then have access to most streaming services available depending where you are in the world, bot free and subscription. However I have found a reclocked Sonos is still not in the same league as native Naim streaming.. and I am looking at devising a way of formally measuring these differences.

The linn solution into a Naim preamp or DAC is one I had not considered.. and could be an interesting alternative.

Simon

 

I have just traded my NDX and upgraded to a Linn Akurate DSM. The NDX (or Naim) seem well behind Linn in this area, but I am keeping my SN2 for now.

Posted on: 28 May 2015 by Ingenius
Originally Posted by jukemark:
Originally Posted by Simon-in-Suffolk:

I agree a reclocked Sonos is a good solution right now, and you then have access to most streaming services available depending where you are in the world, bot free and subscription. However I have found a reclocked Sonos is still not in the same league as native Naim streaming.. and I am looking at devising a way of formally measuring these differences.

The linn solution into a Naim preamp or DAC is one I had not considered.. and could be an interesting alternative.

Simon

 

I have just traded my NDX and upgraded to a Linn Akurate DSM. The NDX (or Naim) seem well behind Linn in this area, but I am keeping my SN2 for now.

I may well just put a Linn sneaky DS on the front end of my Superuniti which is my second system. for my main system I run all Linn as you do . A new ADSM on the front in tandem with my LP12 Klimax into Linn Akurate2200 Power amp. Superb implementation of Tidal, Qobuz and all the BBC radio stations in 320k ..sounds awesome! 

Posted on: 28 May 2015 by T38.45

Auralic Aries ---digi out ---hugo,,,,,supports wimp and Qobuz etc. and costs less than Linn

Posted on: 28 May 2015 by Foxman50
Originally Posted by T38.45:

Auralic Aries ---digi out ---hugo,,,,,supports wimp and Qobuz etc. and costs less than Linn

It this your setup, if so how do you find the Aries Hugo combo.

Posted on: 28 May 2015 by T38.45

I run a setup with Auralic and Playback Designs DAC... would not recommend a Linn with a Hugo DAC... it makes no sense because Linn has an internal DAC already and is too expensive (my 2 cents)...

Auralic Aries can be controlled by Kinsky, Kazoo, Lightning DS,...cool thing it is:-)

 

Posted on: 28 May 2015 by Foxman50

Yes i had one on loan a couple of months back. Very nice unit but I couldn't get it to sound how i wanted when connected to Hugo, hence my question. 

Posted on: 28 May 2015 by T38.45

As a second source, I 'm using a mac mini with Audirvana...with the latest upgrades SW it sounds sublime. Highly recommend this approach (though I was really sceptical with computer based music systems in the beginning��)

Posted on: 28 May 2015 by Foxman50

Already there. Running mac mini with JRiver for past couple of weeks. Going to try an Aurender N100 soon hopefully.

Posted on: 28 May 2015 by sjbabbey
Originally Posted by Foxman50:

Already there. Running mac mini with JRiver for past couple of weeks. Going to try an Aurender N100 soon hopefully.

Graeme, are you keeping your NDX or going completely Naimless?

Posted on: 28 May 2015 by Foxman50
Originally Posted by sjbabbey:
Originally Posted by Foxman50:

Already there. Running mac mini with JRiver for past couple of weeks. Going to try an Aurender N100 soon hopefully.

Graeme, are you keeping your NDX or going completely Naimless?

Im waiting for this blasted firmware update before im 100% sure, but its looking likely it will be going. 

Posted on: 28 May 2015 by sjbabbey
Originally Posted by Foxman50:
Originally Posted by sjbabbey:
Originally Posted by Foxman50:

Already there. Running mac mini with JRiver for past couple of weeks. Going to try an Aurender N100 soon hopefully.

Graeme, are you keeping your NDX or going completely Naimless?

Im waiting for this blasted firmware update before im 100% sure, but its looking likely it will be going. 

Yes, it seems an age since we were told the new firmware was on its way "very soon". I'm really looking forward to the added DSD capability and the reported DSP improvement.