Rush Moving Pictures deluxe CD+DVD 30th anniversary edition

Vapor Trails? Huh! They could try re recording it! 

For what it's worth I had a punt on the HD Tracks offering. Impressions here:

https://forums.naimaudio.com/di...ent/4804681820332394

I have the silver disk ordered also.

I also rate VT a lot. This makes the awful sound quality of the CD all the more irritating. I think from Counterparts onwards their output has been pushed too loud. And before that it's sounded pretty badly finished off to me in various ways, back to Signals. Snakes And Arrows isn't good enough but is at least possible to listen to - another album with strong content and pretty much what I would expect from a long established tight outfit of nearly pensionable age. Long may they continue. I would love to get Waves in 24bit, it's my favorite album (just). Actually I'd take anything. I hope the roll out happens. I see no reason why it shouldn't but the business can be dim and fickle.

Permanent Waves is my favorite as well and the change up ending on the title track while listening to the radio in my dad's car at the wee age of 9 was my first memory of the the band.  Blew my mind.  But for some reason bought All the World's a Stage at Tower Records first and didn't get PW until as a Christmas gift a few months later.  Albums were so different in style that for a short time I remember thinking they were different bands.  Weird.

"Vapor Trails? Huh! They could try re recording it!"

What a shocker that was. A fine example of how to really screw up a rock recording.

My 1981 red and silver label Mercury release of 'Moving Pictures' is the best sounding one for me on CD (the vinyl is of course the real deal). I have later remasters too.

Remasters virtually never offer any sonic improvements on a good system in my experience; they just sound louder, more compressed, de-noised, and artificially exciting. I'm dumping the remasters in my CD collection and replacing them with original CDs.

John.

It's a mine field. I do have some remasters which I consider superior to what went before. The occasional gem still crops up but as you allude to, remastering, particularly nowadays, seems to comprise boosting until the dynamic range has gone. 

At least with downloadable Hi Res material you can grab one track and look at the levels. Of course, that doesn't give you any clue about the providence of the tapes used, which could be not the best available. as is frequently the case. 

How indeed? You're only going to know when you get it home and listen. Very occasionally the artist's website of the online retailer may provide this information. 

Has anyone pulled the 24Bit files off the DVD? I’m using DVD Audio Extractor which finds two lists of titles both in surround sound. I have rendered both sets of files in 24Bit 2 channel WAV but they don’t sound right. Very clear, very life like but with missing information. Comments appreciated.

I had another go on the 24Bit FLAC last night and what can I say? The more I listen, the more I hear. They are worth every penny. Could the WAV files which I have yet to successfully extract from the DVD possibly be any better? Only one way to find out.

I wish I could help but I'm not qualified. Sorry. My AV system doesn't come into contact with the two channel music system. In your position my knee jerk reaction would be to try the Naim  DVD player but that's conditioning. TBH I really couldn't say.

Naim, Rush and Audience Bath. We lead similar lives.

Sometimes.

To be over simplistic but still in accordance with the spirit of my world, I chose Naim because it could play Rush properly.

Does anyone know how to get the 24 bit file off the Blueray and on to a PC in FLAC? 

Regards

Huw

Not sure if it's been posted yet, but...

3 'Sectors' box sets, each one with 5 albums, remastered, and one DVD-A  'Fly By Night', 'Farewell To Kings' and 'Signals' (no 'Permanent Waves'   ) due out Nov. 21st.

ALSO

All 15 albums will be available, according to Universal Music press release, in 24/96 from HDTracks. But HDTracks don't have offical dates yet.

I ordered the box sets last week. Always a risk but I am a minor collector and a Rush Junkie.

I've heard it said that HDTracks will be releasing 24/96 versions and feedback on quality will be fast in coming in the appropriate forums. So I'll know soon enough if the HiRes albums are worth the investment.

Moving Pictures came across very well. So at least the signs are good.

RUSH TO RELEASE “SECTORS” THREE BOX SETS SPANNING ENTIRE
MERCURY RECORDS ERA ON NOVEMBER 21, 2011
Each Box Set To Include A Specially Mixed Album In 5.1 Surround Sound And Stereo

On November 21, 2011, Universal Music Enterprises (UMe) will release three separate six-disc box sets which together spans their entire historic Mercury Records recording career.
Each “Sector” contains 5 of their 15 Mercury albums in chronological order, all transferred to high resolution 96kHz/24-bit and digitally remastered for optimal quality.
In addition, each volume includes an exclusive booklet packed with unpublished photos, original album lyrics and credits, and features one album from each set specially remixed on DVD in high resolution 96kHz/24-bit, 5.1 surround sound and stereo, compatible with both DVD-Audio players and DVD-Video players. Each album is packaged in a replica vinyl mini-jacket of the original album release with all three box sets forming a Rush CD road case.

It baffles me a little. Why would they transfer the albums to 24/96? Why not 24/192? But then they "remaster" them - meaning dithering down to 16/44? I don't know enough about mastering to see why these remastered CDs are going to be significantly better than their previous remasters. Does anyone know how they were done? That was 1997. Has CD mastering come along that far in 14 years? I still love all the vinyls of these albums and doubt they will trump them. Very exciting to hear that all the albums will be in 24/96 on HDTracks. 

And what of this? When did there albums become all digital? Grace Under Pressure? What bitrate where they recorded at? 20bit? I see that Donald Fagen's Night Fly is released as a 24/44.1 file on HDTracks and it notes that it was one of the first all digital recordings of popular music(along with PG Security and Brothers in Arms?) 1982. What was that album recorded at?

I loved the Time Machine tour and will enjoy seeing that concert released on DVD (I don't see mention of Blu-ray - but surely...) I saw it the the gorgeous Gorge Amphitheater in George, Washington. about 20 rows back dead center. Good times.

Yes, but it comes down to the issue of having cool stuff vs. some invisible (albeit good sounding) computer files. The packaging, with album sleeve replications and booklet is something to have. At least it doesn't seem terribly expensive - I think i'll buy it.

Agreed Connon.

I've collected cd for 25 years, Metallica in a can, Kiss in a flightcase, Slayer in a blood pack, Ramstein with a set of...less said about that one the better. I want a 'hard copy' of the music.

What I want is to buy the set, and get a 'free' download of the HDtracks set, or just release the box as a DVD-A/Dual Disc set, so we can just rip our own copies to stream, a la Talking Heads and the Doors.

I'm waiting to see if an HD boxset will be released in the next year or so, it's not like I don't have the music already.